Re: [Lsr] LSR WG Adoption Poll for "IS-IS Topology-Transparent Zone" - draft-chen-isis-ttz-11.txt

2020-08-19 Thread Richard Li
Hi Robert, -ļ˜Š It was not meant to be a silver-bullet by saying ā€œ5Gā€. It happened that I have been discussing with folks on the design of the mobile backhaul/core/MEC. Most of the designers and planners of the mobile backhaul/core/MEC do not work on routing technologies themselves, instead

Re: [Lsr] LSR WG Adoption Poll for "IS-IS Topology-Transparent Zone" - draft-chen-isis-ttz-11.txt

2020-08-19 Thread Henk Smit
I object the introduction of a new major concept, called "zone". It adds nothing to solve problems we can not already solve. It just adds unnecessary complexity and technical debt. (12) In protocol design, perfection has been reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is

[Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-10.txt

2020-08-19 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Link State Routing WG of the IETF. Title : IGP Flexible Algorithm Authors : Peter Psenak Shraddha Hegde

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Veerendranatha, On 19/08/2020 11:48, Veerendranatha Reddy V wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for the reply. As per the discussion, my understanding is Range TLV defined mainly be used for SRMS entries (to get entries from LDP , for LDP Interoperability). The use case mentioned is different from

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-19 Thread Peter Psenak
Olivier, On 19/08/2020 13:42, olivier.dug...@orange.com wrote: Hi all I think the clarification is mandatory and not only in section 5.1 and not only for the delay. Indeed, section 5.1 makes reference to [I-D.ietf-isis-te-app] while section 17.1.2 makes reference to RFC8570 with the same

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-19 Thread olivier.dugeon
Hi all I think the clarification is mandatory and not only in section 5.1 and not only for the delay. Indeed, section 5.1 makes reference to [I-D.ietf-isis-te-app] while section 17.1.2 makes reference to RFC8570 with the same error. And what about reference to RFC7471 for OSPF ? And, I also

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Veerendranatha Reddy V
Hi Peter, Thanks for the reply. For OSPFv2 Extended Prefix TLV (defined in RFC 7684) has route type and it supports NSSA External Prefixes to carry SID information. In the same way, if Range TLV has Route-Type , we can extend to support for NSSA ASBR to send Range TLVs for redistributed

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Veerendranatha Reddy V
Hi Peter, Thanks for the reply. As per the discussion, my understanding is Range TLV defined mainly be used for SRMS entries (to get entries from LDP , for LDP Interoperability). The use case mentioned is different from SRMS (redistribution across IGP protocols) , Range TLV is not applicable

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Veerendranatha Reddy V
Hi Peter, It is not related to SRMS. If there exist ISIS/OSPF or two instances of OSPF in same device, and all are supporting ST, then I can redistribute SR Prefix information to OSPF from other OSPF instance or from ISIS. In this case, I may use range TLV to reduce the number of Prefix TLVs, by

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Veerendranatha Reddy V
Hi Ketan, Please find the response in line. The IA flag in the OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV does not indicate that the prefix-SID mapping advertised via it is for use for only intra or inter area prefixes. The mappings can be used for assignment of SIDs for ALL types of OSPF prefixes -

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Veerendranatha Reddy V
Hi Ketan, Please find the response in line. The IA flag in the OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV does not indicate that the prefix-SID mapping advertised via it is for use for only intra or inter area prefixes. The mappings can be used for assignment of SIDs for ALL types of OSPF prefixes -

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Veerendranatha Reddy V
Hi Peter, While redistributing prefix Sid for the prefixes from other protocols (Ex: from ISIS or other OSPF instances), we can consider as range TLV for the prefixes which are advertised in the range TLV in that protocol. If it is NSSA, then we need to advertise these redistributed prefixes as

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Veerendranatha, Please check inline below with [KT2] -Original Message- From: Veerendranatha Reddy V Sent: 19 August 2020 13:07 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Peter Psenak
Veerendranatha, On 19/08/2020 11:19, Veerendranatha Reddy V wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for the reply. For OSPFv2 Extended Prefix TLV (defined in RFC 7684) has route type and it supports NSSA External Prefixes to carry SID information. In the same way, if Range TLV has Route-Type , we can extend

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Peter Psenak
Veerendranath, On 19/08/2020 10:03, Veerendranatha Reddy V wrote: Hi Peter, It is not related to SRMS. If there exist ISIS/OSPF or two instances of OSPF in same device, and all are supporting ST, then I can redistribute SR Prefix information to OSPF from other OSPF instance or from ISIS.

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPF Extended Prefix Range TLV usage for External/NSSA prefixes defined in RFC 8665

2020-08-19 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Veerendranatha, On 19/08/2020 06:23, Veerendranatha Reddy V wrote: Hi Peter, While redistributing prefix Sid for the prefixes from other protocols (Ex: from ISIS or other OSPF instances), we can consider as range TLV for the prefixes which are advertised in the range TLV in that protocol.

Re: [Lsr] LSR WG Adoption Poll for "IS-IS Topology-Transparent Zone" - draft-chen-isis-ttz-11.txt

2020-08-19 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Richard, I understand that these days you say "5G" and you are done for any use case. :) So I read this paper: https://www.etsi.org/images/files/ETSIWhitePapers/etsi_wp28_mec_in_5G_FINAL..pdf There is nothing there which would indicate a need for zone or even area separation to effectively