Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-cheng-ospf-adjacency-suppress-00.txt

2023-03-06 Thread Mengxiao.Chen
Hi Les, Thank you for your comments. OSPF does include the LSDB sync requirement. But OSPF state machine does not guarantee the two routers attain FULL state at the same time. R1(restart)--R2--R3 R1 LSDB: R1's new router-LSA, seq 8001 R2 LSDB: R1's old router-LSA, seq 8500

Re: [Lsr] Slot request for LSR IETF 116

2023-03-06 Thread Mengxiao.Chen
Hi Acee, Thank you for your review. The problem described in that draft happens when an OSPF router restarts from unplanned outage. Its neighbor has the previous copies of the starting router's LSAs. Since the starting router will reinitialize LSA sequence numbers, the neighbor thinks its

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-cheng-ospf-adjacency-suppress-00.txt

2023-03-06 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
+1 to what Acee has said. As historical context, the SA bit was defined in IS-IS precisely because IS-IS adjacency state machine does NOT include LSPDB sync as a requirement before the adjacency is usable (unlike OSPF). OSPF does not need SA bit. Les > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [Lsr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9350 (7376)

2023-03-06 Thread John Scudder
Hi Les, Thanks for the input. I’ve verified the erratum as editorial/HFDU already under the doctrine of “doesn’t hurt, might help”. Apart from other considerations, the existence of the erratum serves as further documentation that the text in question does *not* mean the protocol (IS-IS).

Re: [Lsr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9350 (7376)

2023-03-06 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
(At the risks of giving this issue more attention than it merits…) My interpretation of the filed Errata is that the submitter incorrectly thought that the text should be referring to the protocol (IS-IS) and that the text had been inadvertently truncated. Consider that the “Note” says:

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-cheng-ospf-adjacency-suppress-00.txt

2023-03-06 Thread Acee Lindem
Hi Liyan, I should replied to this Email rather than your request for an IETF 116 slot. Please reply to this one. I’m sorry but I don’t get this draft from a quick read. An OSPF router would not advertise an adjacency until the router is in FULL state. An OSPF router will not attain FULL

Re: [Lsr] Slot request for LSR IETF 116

2023-03-06 Thread Acee Lindem
+LSR I’m sorry but I don’t get this draft from a quick read. An OSPF router would not advertise an adjacency until the router is in FULL state. An OSPF router will not attain FULL state until database synchronization is complete. The following statement from you use case is incorrect: So,

[Lsr] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC9350 (7376)

2023-03-06 Thread RFC Errata System
The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC9350, "IGP Flexible Algorithm". -- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7376 -- Status: Held for Document Update

[Lsr] Fw:New Version Notification for draft-cheng-ospf-adjacency-suppress-00.txt

2023-03-06 Thread Liyan Gong
Dear All, We have posted a new draft https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheng-ospf-adjacency-suppress/. This draft describes the extension of OSPF LLS to signal adjacency suppression which is functionally similar to the SA bit of Restart TLV in IS-IS. The purpose is to avoid the temporary

Re: [Lsr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9350 (7376)

2023-03-06 Thread Acee Lindem
> On Mar 6, 2023, at 7:57 AM, John Scudder wrote: > > “Hold For Document Update” is exactly for the purpose [1] of making nominal > but inessential improvements. This one seems roughly on the level of “trivial > grammar correction” (item 4 of [1]) which is in-scope for HFDU, and >

Re: [Lsr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9350 (7376)

2023-03-06 Thread John Scudder
“Hold For Document Update” is exactly for the purpose [1] of making nominal but inessential improvements. This one seems roughly on the level of “trivial grammar correction” (item 4 of [1]) which is in-scope for HFDU, and apparently the lack of expansion confused at least one person, so I’m

Re: [Lsr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9350 (7376)

2023-03-06 Thread Acee Lindem
Hi Peter, I agree it is not an errata. We really don’t want to set precedence of having published RFC text nominally improved via Errata. I’ve copied John for Errata resolution. Thanks, Acee > On Mar 6, 2023, at 4:14 AM, Peter Psenak wrote: > > Acee, > > if you ask me, I would not do

Re: [Lsr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9350 (7376)

2023-03-06 Thread Peter Psenak
Acee, if you ask me, I would not do anything. "IS" is correct in the text and it's well known. my 2c, Peter On 05/03/2023 14:32, Acee Lindem wrote: Hi Tony, On Mar 4, 2023, at 4:42 PM, Tony Li wrote: Hi all, IMHO, this erratum is correct, but the proposed fix is incorrect. In this