Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-10-21 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Now the Routing Directorate review is complete, I will request publication. Thanks, Acee On 10/1/20, 11:32 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: The WG last call has ended. All comments have been addressed or concluded. There was considerable discussion regarding the requirement that alternate

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-10-01 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
The WG last call has ended. All comments have been addressed or concluded. There was considerable discussion regarding the requirement that alternate link metrics come from Application-Specific Link Attributes (ASLAs) and whether to allow them from TE advertisements as well. The consensus was

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-11 Thread Peter Psenak
dha Hegde;olivier.dug...@orange.com;tony...@tony.li; Robert Raszuk Cc: Christian Hopps;draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg);lsr@ietf.org;lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Gunter, On 03/09/2020 11:53, Van De Vel

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-11 Thread olivier.dugeon
20 12:02 > To: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) > ; Selderslaghs, Rudy (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) > ; Shraddha Hegde ; > olivier.dug...@orange.com; tony...@tony.li; Robert Raszuk > Cc: Christian Hopps ; > draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo....@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > ;

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-08 Thread Christian Hopps
UST be used. The advertisement >MUST indicate that it is usable by the Flex-Algorithm application. > > > thanks, > Peter > > > >> ======== >> >> >> Rgds >> Shraddha >> >> >> Juniper Business Use Only >> >>

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-08 Thread Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Hi Shraddha, when documents get adopted by the WG when they are still subject to changes. Based on WG feedback and implementation experience

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-08 Thread bruno.decraene
y in a form of the AG or EAG that is used > >> during Flex-Algorithm calculation, an Application Specific Link > >> Attributes sub-TLV as described in [I-D.ietf-isis-te-app], or sub-TLV > >> of Extended Link TLV as described in > >> [I-D.iet

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-08 Thread Peter Psenak
com; tony...@tony.li; Robert Raszuk Cc: Christian Hopps ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex- algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi Shraddha

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-08 Thread Peter Psenak
.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi Shraddha, draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-00 was published May 15, 2018 (over two years ago). It clearly stated: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://to

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-07 Thread Shraddha Hegde
insberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi Shraddha, On 03/09/2020 05:39, Shraddha Hegde wrote: > Peter, > > In order to make the document clearer on this p

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-07 Thread bruno.decraene
> > > -Original Message- > > From: Peter Psenak > > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:43 PM > > To: Shraddha Hegde ; > olivier.dug...@orange.com; tony...@tony.li; Robert Raszuk > > > Cc: Christian Hopps ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex- > algo@ietf.org; Le

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-03 Thread Peter Psenak
.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Gunter, On 03/09/2020 11:53, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote: Hi Peter, All, Let me chime in. When the L-bit is set in an ASLA TLV, then for all applications marked, indeed only legacy attr

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-03 Thread Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
udy (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) ; Shraddha Hegde ; olivier.dug...@orange.com; tony...@tony.li; Robert Raszuk Cc: Christian Hopps ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-al

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-03 Thread Selderslaghs, Rudy (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Hi Shraddha, On 03/09/2020 05:39, Shraddha Hegde wrote: > Peter, > > In order to make the document clearer on this point, I wou

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-03 Thread Peter Psenak
rg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Hi Shraddha, On 03/09/2020 05:39, Shraddha Hegde wrote: Peter, In order to make the document clearer on this point, I would like the text below to be added to section 11

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-03 Thread Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
.@orange.com; tony...@tony.li; Robert Raszuk Cc: Christian Hopps ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Hi Rudy, On 03/09/2020 11:01, Selderslaghs,

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-03 Thread Peter Psenak
ndem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Hi Shraddha, On 03/09/2020 05:39, Shraddha Hegde wrote: Peter, In order to make the document clearer on this point, I would like the text below to be added to section 11 to make it explicit that setting the L-bit is

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-03 Thread Peter Psenak
go@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi Shraddha, please see inline: On 02/09/2020 06:45, Shraddha Hegde wrote: Peter, It is wor

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-02 Thread Shraddha Hegde
ny.li; Robert Raszuk Cc: Christian Hopps ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi Shraddha, please see i

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-02 Thread Peter Psenak
27, 2020 3:34 PM To: Shraddha Hegde ; olivier.dug...@orange.com; tony...@tony.li; Robert Raszuk Cc: Christian Hopps ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-09-01 Thread Shraddha Hegde
; olivier.dug...@orange.com; tony...@tony.li; Robert Raszuk Cc: Christian Hopps ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo [External Email. Be cautious of content

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-27 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert Raszuk *Cc:* Christian Hopps ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo *[External Email. Be cautious of content]* Peter, Le 20/08/2020 à 14:12,

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-25 Thread Shraddha Hegde
.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo [External Email. Be cautious of content] Peter, Le 20/08/2020 à 14:12, Peter Psenak a écrit : Hi Olivier, On 20/08/2020 13:58, olivier.dug...@orange.com<mailto:olivier.dug...@orange..com> wrote: Hi Peter, T

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-20 Thread tony . li
I have reviewed the change in -10 and it seems fine to me. Objection withdrawn. I support publication. Tony > On Aug 17, 2020, at 4:47 PM, tony...@tony.li wrote: > > > >> This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending after September 1st, 2020, for >> draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo >> >>

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-20 Thread Peter Psenak
>>     *Cc:* lsr@ietf.org <mailto:lsr@ietf.org>; lsr-...@ietf.org <mailto:lsr-...@ietf.org>; Christian Hopps mailto:cho...@chopps.org>>; Acee Lindem (acee) mailto:a...@cisco.com>>; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo....@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-20 Thread olivier.dugeon
gt;>>>>     point 33. >>>>>> >>>>>>     RFC 8570 (and its predecessor RFC 7810) define: >>>>>> >>>>>>     34       Min/Max Unidirectional Link Delay >>>>>>

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-20 Thread Peter Psenak
tf.org>; Christian Hopps mailto:cho...@chopps.org>>; Acee Lindem (acee) mailto:a...@cisco.com>>; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo....@ietf.org>     *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo     Hi Peter,     secti

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-20 Thread olivier.dugeon
>> >>>>           an integer value.” >>>> >>>>     It seems clear to me that the flex-draft is referring to Min >>>>     Unidirectional Link Delay in codepoint 34. >>>> >>>>     I agree it is important to be unambiguous in specifications

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-19 Thread Peter Psenak
.@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Hi Peter, section 5.1 of the draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo says: Min Unidirectional Link Delay as defined in [I-D.ietf-isis-te-ap

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-19 Thread olivier.dugeon
s been very clear. >> >> Please explain how you managed to end up at code point 33?? >> >>   >> >>    Les >> >>   >> >>   >> >>   >> >> *From:* Lsr mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org>> *On >> B

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Les, There is no TLV called the Min Unidirectional Link Delay. If the document had said “The min delay of the Min/Max Unidirectional

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread tony . li
sday, August 18, 2020 10:03 AM > To: Robert Raszuk > Cc: Christian Hopps ; > draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo....@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee > Lindem (acee) ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
> > > > *From:* Lsr *On Behalf Of * tony...@tony.li > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:03 AM > *To:* Robert Raszuk > *Cc:* Christian Hopps ; > draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org>; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org;

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Robert, Thank you, exactly. We just need a clarification of the document. I don’t understand why this is such a big deal. Tony

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Robert, On 18/08/2020 19:10, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hi Tony, I am not sure what the deal is :) But fact is that we never defined a type which this draft is referring to "Min Unidirectional Link Delay" just does not exist in any IANA registry so even any search for that will fail. Perhaps

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
guous in specifications, but I think >> Peter has been very clear. >> >> Please explain how you managed to end up at code point 33?? >> >> >> >>Les >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Lsr *On Behalf Of * tony

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread tony . li
sday, August 18, 2020 7:44 AM > To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> > Cc: lsr@ietf.org <mailto:lsr@ietf.org>; lsr-...@ietf.org > <mailto:lsr-...@ietf.org>; Christian Hopps <mailto:cho...@chopps.org>>; Acee Lindem (acee) <mailto:a...@cisco.com>>

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Robert Raszuk
gt; > > > > > *From:* Lsr *On Behalf Of * tony...@tony.li > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:44 AM > *To:* Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > *Cc:* lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Christian Hopps ; > Acee Lindem (acee) ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] WG L

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
From: Lsr On Behalf Of tony...@tony.li Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 7:44 AM To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) Cc: lsr@ietf.org; lsr-...@ietf.org; Christian Hopps ; Acee Lindem (acee) ; draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Hi Peter

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread tony . li
Hi Peter, > section 5.1 of the draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo says: > > Min Unidirectional Link Delay as defined in [I-D.ietf-isis-te-app]. > > We explicitly say "Min Unidirectional Link Delay", so this cannot be mixed > with other delay values (max, average). The problem is that that does not

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Chris, I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR. thanks, Peter On 18/08/2020 01:30, Christian Hoppsprotocol= application/pgp-signature wrote: This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending after September 1st, 2020, for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-18 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Tony, section 5.1 of the draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo says: Min Unidirectional Link Delay as defined in [I-D.ietf-isis-te-app]. We explicitly say "Min Unidirectional Link Delay", so this cannot be mixed with other delay values (max, average). section 7.3. of ietf-isis-te-app says: Type

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-17 Thread Shraddha Hegde
: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending after September 1st, 2020, for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo/ All authors, please indicate by sending an email to the list, whether you aware of any other

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-17 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
@ietf.org Subject: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending after September 1st, 2020, for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo/ All authors, please indicate by sending an email to the list, whether you

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-17 Thread tony . li
> This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending after September 1st, 2020, for > draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo/ Hi, I’d like to raise an objection. Recently, I requested (and I thought that Peter agreed to) a clarification of the Min

[Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2020-08-17 Thread Christian Hopps
This begins a 2 week WG Last Call, ending after September 1st, 2020, for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo/ All authors, please indicate by sending an email to the list, whether you aware of any other IPR beyond what is already posted: