Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Cristi Mitrana
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 18:38:43 -0500 (EST), Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe in your world, everybody has P3 and P4 workstations, but ask the 80,000 students in So.Africa who are using LTSP, or the 600 schools in Peru that are setting up k12ltsp, or the projected 6,000 Telecentros

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Onsdag 02 marts 2005 05:01 skrev Jim McQuillan: Les, At first, it felt like we were arguing about this, but as we go through this, it's clear to me that we are exactly on the same page. The beauty of using the distro pkg mgmt tools is that we can easily load up a full system into the LTSP

[Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread David Trask
Just making sure I understand what you mean by locallyyou mean pull the app down the pipe and use the terminals resources to run the app? Support list for opensource software in schools. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 at 11:01 PM + wrote: People have been asking me for quite

[Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Jim McQuillan
Les, At first, it felt like we were arguing about this, but as we go through this, it's clear to me that we are exactly on the same page. The beauty of using the distro pkg mgmt tools is that we can easily load up a full system into the LTSP tree. If it's Debian, a simple 'apt-get install

[Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Jim McQuillan
Les, A huge number of LTSP users are deploying with 486's, Pentium-I's and Pentium-II's, with 32mb (or less). Trying to use the servers optimized binaries just wouldn't work in that case. and at this point, we're just not interested in having to maintain 2 different ways of doing this. 1 for

[Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Jim McQuillan
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, David Trask wrote: Just making sure I understand what you mean by locallyyou mean pull the app down the pipe and use the terminals resources to run the app? Yep, that's exactly right. Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Support list for opensource software in

[Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Jim McQuillan
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Les Mikesell wrote: On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:38, Jim McQuillan wrote: A huge number of LTSP users are deploying with 486's, Pentium-I's and Pentium-II's, with 32mb (or less). Trying to use the servers optimized binaries just wouldn't work in that case. and at this

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Evan Hisey
Totally agree here, I personally still use a lot of old 486/586 machines for my work. Forced 686 would just be bad. That brings up the question of dealling with distro's that have basiclly abandoned the older hardware. Evan On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:12:47 -0800, Dan Stromberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Sean Carolan
Almost every day I get reports of people deploying LTSP in areas where their only client hardware is old donated equipment, and it's NOT i686 stuff. I'm just not willing to abandon those folks. Jim is correct - and the people using these Pentium II machines are not just African

[Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread David Trask
Jim, I like that idea, because in many cases my machines have the local horsepower to do many things...in particular run Firefox and flash...that would be my biggest thing. So far that's my achilles heel on my systemsince Firefox and flash-plugin eats up CPU cycles like they're going out of

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Evan Hisey
David- Maybe we can talk Jim in to adding a CVS branch for the documents. I also want to document this from the ground up. My biggest issue with 4.1 has been the difficulty in finding the information I needed, and then with the LBE having to go to Jim for things that really needed to be

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Jim McQuillan
Evan, LTSP docs are already in cvs. Have been for quite some time. Anybody interested in helping out with docs should join the ltsp-translations mailing list and also check out the cvs info at the bottom of the following page: http://www.ltsp.org/cvs.html Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Richard Bos
Op woensdag 2 maart 2005 05:01, schreef Jim McQuillan: At first, it felt like we were arguing about this, but as we go through this, it's clear to me that we are exactly on the same page. The beauty of using the distro pkg mgmt tools is that we can easily load up a full system into the LTSP

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-02 Thread Don
Frankly, I think the concept of letting the client run the apps vs the server, or perhaps letting the client run SELECTED apps vs the server is a really good move. DR2 On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Jim McQuillan wrote: On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, David Trask wrote: Just making sure I understand what

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Re: [K12OSN] Project MueKow

2005-03-01 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 18:38 -0500, Jim McQuillan wrote: I'm just not willing to abandon those folks. Very cool. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part