Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Jimen Ching
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Dean Fujioka wrote: >Jimen Ching wrote: >> I'm just disappointed that so many distributions start carry this >> baggage and forcing the rest of us to drag it along. >Why do you feel forced to use the GUI? I am not forced to use the GUI. But if a distribution includes both GNOM

Re: [luau] 2.4.19 is out!

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
Warren Togami wrote: - Original Message - From: "MonMotha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [luau] 2.4.19 is out! "It's not just for gateways anymore" though. If anyone would like to conrtibute a name, please speak! MO

Re: [luau] 2.4.19 is out!

2002-08-02 Thread Warren Togami
- Original Message - From: "MonMotha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [luau] 2.4.19 is out! > > "It's not just for gateways anymore" though. If anyone would like to > conrtibute a name, please speak! MOLK of course. Thou

Re: [luau] 2.4.19 is out!

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
MonMotha wrote: In that case, I guess my project has found a home! For now, there's no homepage, so I'll just throw the patches in this dir: http://monmotha.mplug.org/mothagw/ Remind me to move it. Mothagw is left over from an earlier patch that didn't have the preemptable kernel or xfs i

Re: [luau] 2.4.19 is out!

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
In that case, I guess my project has found a home! For now, there's no homepage, so I'll just throw the patches in this dir: http://monmotha.mplug.org/mothagw/ Not guaranteed to boot, be stable, or even compile, but it does at least compile for me using the config it comes with. Please give

Re: [luau] 2.4.19 is out!

2002-08-02 Thread Ray Strode
or [...] I can put it on my videl space. That's the type of thing videl is for! --Ray

Re: [luau] 2.4.19 is out!

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
On the subject, if anyone wants. I think I just finished up my patch series. I'm starting to "maintain" a patch series similar in nature to FOLK or WOLK in that I don't do any actual coding (and if I do, they're very small tweaks), but rather a collection of patches that I apply and iron out

Re: [luau] MPLUG meeting log

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
Eh, I just try to pollute the spambot lists as much as possible. :) --Monmotha Ray Strode wrote: Would you mind passing my email address on there through rot13 just to make a lame attempt to keep the spambots away? You know this mailing list is archived and i'm sure your email address

Re: [luau] MPLUG meeting log

2002-08-02 Thread Ray Strode
Would you mind passing my email address on there through rot13 just to make a lame attempt to keep the spambots away? You know this mailing list is archived and i'm sure your email address pops up quite a lot. Spam is inevitable, just use spamassassin and then you don't have to worry abo

Re: [luau] rpmv & slocate

2002-08-02 Thread Ray Strode
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: This morning, How early :-)? These things are usually setup to run at like 4am. What are the "rpmv" and "slocate" commands"? rpmv is a helper program for rpm, which compares files installed to what files the rpm database says should be installed. slocate is a prog

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Ray Strode
Typing "rm -rf /lib/*" is 13 bytes+TCP overhead. 14 bytes actually. If you don't press return then the command is pretty harmless :-) Heck, the TCP overhead is higher than than sending the actual data! Quite a bit more, there is something like 24 bytes+ of header per tcp packet i think, and

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Dean Fujioka
Jimen Ching wrote: On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Eric Hattemer wrote: I'm just disappointed that so many distributions start carry this baggage and forcing the rest of us to drag it along. --jc Why do you feel forced to use the GUI? Or do you feel that Linux development is wasted on GUI dev?

Re: [luau] CompUSA meeting

2002-08-02 Thread Dan George
Warren Togami wrote: Oh crap. I've been telling everyone 10am.Yes, I will be there. Ho'ala Greevy, Brian Low and Elayne Man said theywould be there too.- Original Message -From: "Dan George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 4:29 PMSubject: [lu

Re: [luau] CompUSA meeting

2002-08-02 Thread Warren Togami
Oh crap. I've been telling everyone 10am. Yes, I will be there. Ho'ala Greevy, Brian Low and Elayne Man said they would be there too. - Original Message - From: "Dan George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: [luau] CompUSA meeting

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Carl Tucker
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 03:10:45PM -1000, Eric Hattemer wrote: > I have never once said that the command line should be eliminated, or > anything of the sort. The command line is useful as a secondary shell for a > lot of people, and should be available for an init 1 type of situation. > However,

[luau] CompUSA meeting

2002-08-02 Thread Dan George
Warren and Group How many can make it tomarrow between 9:30 and 10:00am at CompUSA? I know youd be there Warren, correct? Thanks Dan

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread al plant
Eric Hattemer wrote: > > I've been busy lately, and never had the chance to reply to this message, > but here we go: > > From: "Jimen Ching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Eric Hattemer wrote: > > I suppose I missed the logic in the first part of your message, so I'm > cutting i

[luau] 2.4.19 is out!

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
Kernel 2.4.19 is out. Grab it from ftp.kernel.org or use a mirror (ftp.[cc].kernel.org). --MonMotha

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread al plant
MonMotha wrote: > > Eric Hattemer wrote: > > If nothing exists for this, something could easily be invented. I don't > > know if ftp, sftp, or scp are capable of deleting files, but it would be > > easy enough to make a graphical ssh client that does all of its graphics > > client side. > > > > -

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Jimen Ching
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Eric Hattemer wrote: >and conveniently enough, they have the keyboard shortcuts written in. This >is another example of learning the slow but easy way first, then eventually >moving to the harder yet faster method. ^^ I think you hit the na

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Eric Hattemer
I have never once said that the command line should be eliminated, or anything of the sort. The command line is useful as a secondary shell for a lot of people, and should be available for an init 1 type of situation. However, I've just been saying that the GUI should be improved to the extent tha

Re: [luau] MPLUG meeting log

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
Warren Togami wrote: http://www.mplug.org/archive/2002/mplug_aim2.html This is a recording of the MPLUG online chat meeting Thursday night. I would really appreciate it if someone could summarize and post the summary of this log, but I will do so tomorrow if it isn't done. Note: The additional

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Eric Hattemer
I've been busy lately, and never had the chance to reply to this message, but here we go: From: "Jimen Ching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Eric Hattemer wrote: I suppose I missed the logic in the first part of your message, so I'm cutting it. > >Only about 1:5 times when I try to

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
Eric Hattemer wrote: If nothing exists for this, something could easily be invented. I don't know if ftp, sftp, or scp are capable of deleting files, but it would be easy enough to make a graphical ssh client that does all of its graphics client side. -Eric Hattemer You mean a frontend? Use

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Eric Hattemer
If nothing exists for this, something could easily be invented. I don't know if ftp, sftp, or scp are capable of deleting files, but it would be easy enough to make a graphical ssh client that does all of its graphics client side. -Eric Hattemer - Original Message - From: "MonMotha" <[EMA

[luau] Win2K SP3

2002-08-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Forgot to mention that the message was quoted from a WordPerfect newsgroup. I was unable to copy the link.

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread MonMotha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you'd like to explain how to delete files on a system that's 100s of miles away without using rm or a similar command line utility, I'd be happy to hear it. Even if there is none (existing), that is hardly a good reason for everyone to have to learn the arcana. T

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread Jimen Ching
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Couldn't a graphical method of executing 'rm -rf' also allow accidental >>deletion? >You could certainly design a GUI so that it was just as easy (a bad design), >and people seem capable of out-idioting any idiot-proof measure. But let's face >it, accid

[luau] Win2K SP3

2002-08-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Initially I was a little surprised to see that Microsoft might have indeed shown a change of heart to provide a long awaited but unexpected (b/c it has moved to Windows XP) service pack for Windows 2000. But then I was alerted to the following term: "You acknowledge and agree that Microsoft m

[luau] rpmv & slocate

2002-08-02 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
This morning, when I ran a "top" check, I found my system is running a command called "rpmv" under root for about 4 minutes, followed by the "slocate" command for another minute or so. What are the "rpmv" and "slocate" commands"?

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread burnst001
> >If you'd like to explain how to delete files on a system that's 100s of >miles away without using rm or a similar command line utility, I'd be >happy to hear it. Even if there is none (existing), that is hardly a good reason for everyone to have to learn the arcana. This case is the excepti

Re: [luau] MSWindows

2002-08-02 Thread burnst001
>Couldn't a graphical method of executing 'rm -rf' also allow accidental >deletion? You could certainly design a GUI so that it was just as easy (a bad design), and people seem capable of out-idioting any idiot-proof measure. But let's face it, accidentally typing rm -rf /lib/* and hitting enter

Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17" monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project

2002-08-02 Thread Warren Togami
Update: Brian Low is picking up the 17" monitors from the military today at 1:00pm, then dropping them off at Midpac around 2:30pm. He is then taking the 15" monitors at Midpac to Pricebusters for storage. Thanks Brian! We still need to discuss the broken monitor situation with Royal Data, so we

[luau] Open Source Convention 2002

2002-08-02 Thread John Pescador
Please read our Blog of OSCON: http://jonlim.freezope.org/oscon/ News from the Convention: http://www.oreillynet.com/oscon2002/ Presentation slides: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/15/presentations.html Todd Ogasawara's presentation http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2002/view/e_sess

[luau] (no subject)

2002-08-02 Thread John Pescador
I sent an e-mail to the Department of Accounting and General Services (DAGS) Inventory Managment Branch regarding old computer equipment. The reply: I am not familiar with is group. Surplues state property can be donated to nonprofit tax exempt charitable organizations with 501C3 federal tax exe

[luau] Media relations for CompUSA/Linux for Business Event

2002-08-02 Thread John Pescador
Erika Engle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sandra Oshiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Business News pacific.bizjournals.com Hawaii Business Magazine www.hawaiibusiness.cc PacificNews.Net www.pacificnews.net ThinkTechHawaii www.thinktechhawaii.com Hawaiian Hard Drive www.hawaiiharddrive.com HiTechHawaii www.

[luau] What is eList?

2002-08-02 Thread John Pescador
eList is a networking event that draws tech and entreprenuerial people. We usually have our events on the first Tuesday of the month (Sorry CyberPizza) at a bar/restaurant. We have been holding events since April 2000. We currently have a web site with some history. www.elisthawaii.com I've se

Re: [luau] My schedule - how you can help

2002-08-02 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Thursday 01 August 2002 23:31, you wrote: > 2. For those interested in testing / prepping equipment for the LTSP for > schools project, you MUST SIGN IN AND OUT with the manager on duty > (Either Julie, Robert or Jay). Also, we must only use the front entrance > (Main store entrance). How we

Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17" monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project

2002-08-02 Thread R. Scott Belford
Al, Thanks for taking care of that for us. You and Julie are huge (figuratively, not literally) :-) I will be back next week to help store these neatly or deploy them if needed. Sorry for the latency, I lost my cable modem link for a few days here. Also, my thanks to whoever took the time t

[luau] News - Spanish Public Administration firmly bets on Free Software

2002-08-02 Thread Warren Togami
http://www.advogato.org/article/524.html After the success achieved with the Linex [1] project, the Spanish Public Administration has published at TLDP-ES (LuCAS) [2] its report about the project RHODAS [3], regarding the production state of 8.000 workstations running Debian GNU/Linux [4], which sa

[luau] Mandrake 9.0 beta 2

2002-08-02 Thread Warren Togami
ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586/ Mandrake 9.0 beta 2 is out.