Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC) (Nio Wiklund)

2017-07-17 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Also posting from above: Not sure why these posts from 2016 came out in recent digest, but I would support Nio & Aere's request for continuing to support i386 development, in comparison to PPC, where it might be said that there aren't that many machines, I would assume that there are quite a few e

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2017-07-17 Thread Nio Wiklund
[continuing top posting] Hi everybody, 1. I think that we should keep making the current 32-bit versions alias 'i386' (with i686 kernels) of Lubuntu, Ubuntu Server, mini.iso and the other flavours that want to keep it. I agree with Aere's arguments (near the end of this mail). 2. I can unde

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2017-07-17 Thread Fritz Hudnut
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > As far as my perspective is concerned, I'm perfectly happy with dropping > PPC. It makes me sad. PPC brought me to the Lubuntu community. However, it > becomes increasingly harder to make PPC users happy. The successes that we > have had

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2017-07-17 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
Has there been an announcement that FF will drop PPC? On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > >> As far as my perspective is concerned, I'm perfectly happy with dropping >> PPC. It makes me sad. PPC brought me to the

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-17 Thread Henk Terhell
Walter & Julien: What is meant by the proposal of "dropping i386"? Does it mean dropping all 32-bit machines (as 'i386' in Debian packages would imply)? If so, I think that would be a very extreme, draconian thing to do. In my particular case, it would mean that seven of the machines in my

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Nio Wiklund
[continuing top posting; re-sending with less recipients to allow posting to the lubuntu mailing lists] Hi everybody, 1. I think that we should keep making the current 32-bit versions alias 'i386' (with i686 kernels) of Lubuntu, Ubuntu Server, mini.iso and the other flavours that want to keep

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Walter Lapchynski
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2016-November/000908.html On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Israel wrote: > On 11/16/2016 06:45 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > PPC has been dropped as a release architecture in Debian. It's not looking > too good there. > > Well... That is new. >

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Israel
On 11/16/2016 06:45 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > PPC has been dropped as a release architecture in Debian. It's not > looking too good there. Well... That is new. I knew they were dropping i586, but I thought they would keep PPC... maybe it is just PPC64? Alas.. maybe PPC is really doing to be

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Walter Lapchynski
PPC has been dropped as a release architecture in Debian. It's not looking too good there. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Israel wrote: > On 11/16/2016 04:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > Aere: I think what Ubuntu is discussing is removing i386/x86/32-bit, i.e. > going all amd64/x64/64-bit.

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Israel
On 11/16/2016 04:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > Aere: I think what Ubuntu is discussing is removing i386/x86/32-bit, > i.e. going all amd64/x64/64-bit. And yes, it would very negatively > impact many Lubuntu users as well as the goals of the Lubuntu project > as a whole. > > Unfortunately, I was

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Aere: I think what Ubuntu is discussing is removing i386/x86/32-bit, i.e. going all amd64/x64/64-bit. And yes, it would very negatively impact many Lubuntu users as well as the goals of the Lubuntu project as a whole. Unfortunately, I was not able to make it to the session. For those of us in the

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Brendan Perrine
On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:30:10 -0700 Aere Greenway wrote: > On 11/16/2016 05:45 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: > > 2016-11-14 21:36 GMT+01:00 Walter Lapchynski : > >> It should be pointed out that this discussion is not only about PPC but > >> it's > >> also about i386. Since i386 is a major target of

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Aere Greenway
On 11/16/2016 05:45 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: 2016-11-14 21:36 GMT+01:00 Walter Lapchynski : It should be pointed out that this discussion is not only about PPC but it's also about i386. Since i386 is a major target of Lubuntu, I would advise attendance. I'm woking this day, so I will not be

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Ronald Frye
esday, November 16, 2016 4:45 AM To: Walter Lapchynski Cc: lubuntu-devel ; Bryan Quigley ; Fritz Hudnut ; Simon Quigley ; lubuntu user list Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC) 2016-11-14 21:36 GMT+01:00 Walter Lapchynski : It should be pointed out

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-16 Thread Julien Lavergne
2016-11-14 21:36 GMT+01:00 Walter Lapchynski : > It should be pointed out that this discussion is not only about PPC but it's > also about i386. Since i386 is a major target of Lubuntu, I would advise > attendance. > I'm woking this day, so I will not be able to attempt :-( However, dropping i386

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re:[lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-15 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
I would to be at this meeting, but I work conference call at the same time...sorry On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > 1500 is 0700 in PST. Pacific Time oscillates between PST (UTC-8) and PDT > (UTC-7). UTC does suffer such changes. There is no such thing as UTC zones. >

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re:[lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-14 Thread Walter Lapchynski
1500 is 0700 in PST. Pacific Time oscillates between PST (UTC-8) and PDT (UTC-7). UTC does suffer such changes. There is no such thing as UTC zones. There are time zones, which are based on UTC, but UTC can only mean one thing. On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Eric Bradshaw < ericbrads...@computer

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re:[lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-14 Thread Eric Bradshaw
@Yao: Thanks for that link, it did go to the correct page, but, still the "time" is eluding me, is that "1500" UTC zone 1 . . .  ???  How to extrapolate that to Pacific Time Zone? F Change UTC to your time zone: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx Eric Bradshaw --- Thank y

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 13:39:08 -0800, Fritz Hudnut wrote: >@Yao: > >Thanks for that link, it did go to the correct page, but, still the >"time" is eluding me, is that "1500" UTC zone 1 . . . ??? How to >extrapolate that to Pacific Time zone??? In the left upper corner, here's a clock. If you cli

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-14 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@Yao: Thanks for that link, it did go to the correct page, but, still the "time" is eluding me, is that "1500" UTC zone 1 . . . ??? How to extrapolate that to Pacific Time zone??? F On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Yao Wei wrote: > The correct link is: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeti

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 12:54:58 -0800, Fritz Hudnut wrote: >I tried the link and it said "page doesn't exist" I posted the correct link here: http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2016-November/106712.html It was just a "space" between "16" and "11". -- Lubuntu-users mailing list

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-14 Thread Yao Wei
The correct link is: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/architecture-discussions/ On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 at 04:55 Fritz Hudnut wrote: > @wxl: > > Again asking what time this will be happening? I tried the link and it > said "page doesn't exist" . . . possibly link is busted or the page

Re: [lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-14 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@wxl: Again asking what time this will be happening? I tried the link and it said "page doesn't exist" . . . possibly link is busted or the page doesn't exist until in use? F On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > It should be pointed out that this discussion is not only

[lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

2016-11-14 Thread Walter Lapchynski
It should be pointed out that this discussion is not only about PPC but it's also about i386. Since i386 is a major target of Lubuntu, I would advise attendance. On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Bryan Quigley wrote: > Sorry for the late notice - there is a live discussion scheduled for > this We