[Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-20 Thread Erich Focht
Hello, we're seing an LBUG on clients running with Lustre 1.6.5.1 (the servers are still under 1.6.4.3). I tried finding this in bugzilla with no success. There seems to be some data inconsistency, can somebody please tell me whether this is rather on the server side (the data on disk is inconsist

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-20 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 16:00 +0200, Erich Focht wrote: > Hello, > > we're seing an LBUG on clients running with Lustre 1.6.5.1 (the servers are > still under 1.6.4.3). I tried finding this in bugzilla with no success. Bug 16427. b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-20 Thread Erich Focht
On Mittwoch 20 August 2008, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 16:00 +0200, Erich Focht wrote: > > Hello, > > > > we're seing an LBUG on clients running with Lustre 1.6.5.1 (the servers are > > still under 1.6.4.3). I tried finding this in bugzilla with no success. > > Bug 16427. Th

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-20 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 16:47 +0200, Erich Focht wrote: > > Thanks but... I don't seem to be authorized to see that bug (?). Oh, yes. :-( I tend to forget to look at the privacy settings on bugs. > Is that bug fixed in 1.6.5.1? No. Reported on 1.6.5 in fact. > Any advice resulting from its co

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-21 Thread Erich Focht
Thanks, Brian. A more general comment: what is the use of invisible bugs, anyway? I suppose the bug has been set "private" by the reporter. Wouldn't it actually make sense to have all bugs open, such that others are warned of the issue? Guess if somebody doesn't want to disclose the company on beh

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ...?in?lock

2008-08-21 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
I agree that hiding bugs is quite bad. I'm going to be an open source curmudgeon for a minute and say that if Sun/CFS wants to track customer-specific, sensitive data bugs, they need to have a separate system and pay someone to make sure that all internal bugs are santized and put into the open s

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-21 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 16:40 +0200, Erich Focht wrote: > > A more general comment: what is the use of invisible bugs, anyway? You have to remember that we have customers who have sensitive data. Sometimes they need to share this data with us and yet not have it publicly consumable. > I > suppose

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-21 Thread Jim Garlick
All LLNL bug reports to Sun are public. We are willing to do the extra work to sanitize bug reports ourselves. It's usually little or no effort anyway - we rarely need to post an entire crash dump or a stack trace that includes application data. I would encourage sites that may have chosen to

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-21 Thread Erich Focht
On Donnerstag 21 August 2008, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 16:40 +0200, Erich Focht wrote: > > > > A more general comment: what is the use of invisible bugs, anyway? > > You have to remember that we have customers who have sensitive data. > Sometimes they need to share this dat

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-21 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 19:58 +0200, Erich Focht wrote: > > Just looking for a way to stay informed on what's going on with this bug. Indeed. I can understand that. > If I file it (as non-private) maybe it will be closed as duplicate, but > actually it would be usefull to keep it around and at le

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ... in lock

2008-08-21 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
> > If I file it (as non-private) maybe it will be closed as duplicate, but > > actually it would be usefull to keep it around and at least synchronize the > > status with that of the private bug. > > Yes. If you were to file it and make it public and note that you were > told it was an instance

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ...?in?lock

2008-08-21 Thread Andreas Dilger
On Aug 21, 2008 09:59 -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: > > I'm going to be an open source curmudgeon for a minute and say that if > Sun/CFS wants to track customer-specific, sensitive data bugs, they need > to have a separate system and pay someone to make sure that all internal > bugs are santized

Re: [Lustre-discuss] LBUG on client: Found existing inode ...?in?lock

2008-08-21 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
> Since being part of Sun the Lustre designs and design discussions > are available to the public (e.g. lustre-devel, wiki, public bugs for > feature development, and internal debugging discussions, etc). In truth, > it hasn't made a huge difference in external contributions to code or > design, b