Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread WIWO
hi sean, the globe is a "real globe" a painting-copy of "The globe is close to one produced by Johannes Schöner at Nuremberg in 1523. The map includes a representation of the New World. It also shows the line demarcating the division of the Spanish and Portuguese colonial possessions that was estab

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Jon Murphy
Maps and globes, maybe he ran out of paint or ran out of steam. Broken strings, maybe the player had a broken string when Holbein painted the lute (did anyone say Holbein was a musician). It is probably apochryphal but there is the claimed quote from Freud "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar". And

Testudo Gallo Germanica in ABC archive

2003-10-22 Thread Taco Walstra
Dear listmembers, Werner von Hoersten has made the complete Testudo Gallo Germanica by Georg Leopold Fuhrmann available to the abc archive. The book contains 157 pieces (total 256 pages)!! Everything can be downloaded from the link below. The page also contains a separate pdf file with edition no

Re: First trials

2003-10-22 Thread Jon Murphy
I'd love to help Goran, but first I'd have to understand your notation. I don't know of a "w" or an "x" in the French notation, and I have enough difficulty with that. I'm pretty familiar with chord sequences, even the esoteric (and have some original ones of my own) but the combination of letters

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Sean, Thanks for the pictures! I have seen the Ambassadors many times in the flesh, before and after the restoration, and it remains an inspirational painting for us lute nuts. I thought the music had been identified - am I wrong? The Berlin painting is really interesting, as I've only

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Jon Murphy
Vance, You are both right and wrong. It wasn't the lute per se that was considered ungodly in the reformation, it was all music of the Catholic liturgy. The strict Protestants (beyond Luther) found the music of the Catholic church to be a lure to the arts and other "impure" things. It was at this

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Jon Murphy
Vance, > That being said the issue still remains true, in some degree or another the > demise of the Lute was in part to the increasing influence of the Protestant > religions who viewed the Lute as a vanity. That too is odd considering the > Martin Luther is said to have played the Lute though

Request, music

2003-10-22 Thread Jon Murphy
OK all, another week and I'll have this "lute" built. The only music I have is the Ronn McFarlane Scottish Lute (with two formats, the guitar transcription and the pure French tabulature). There is plenty to keep me busy for years there (and when I complete the "lute" I'll have to go to the pure Fr

Re: Request, music

2003-10-22 Thread Gernot Hilger
Jon, there's much music which can be downloaded without upsetting our valuable editors too much. Taco has just posted one address: http://msg.science.uva.nl/~walstra/ABCArchive/ g

Re: Request, music

2003-10-22 Thread Taco Walstra
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 10:28, Jon Murphy wrote: If you had just read your e-mail you would have seen that there is a nice new book, free for download, lots of music to keep you busy for a long time. In the abcarchive there are hundreds of pieces of music. There is the very large tab archiv

Re: First trials

2003-10-22 Thread G.R. Crona
Hi Jon, The format you're seeing is Wayne Cripp's TAB format, one of the most platform independent formats we have for conveying lute tablature. The programmes Fronimo and Stringwalker allows you to import a text file with the surname *.tab into them, where you can then visualize it to any type of

luteplayer painting

2003-10-22 Thread WIWO
hi, yesterday i looked through the cataloge of the "berliner gemäldegalerie" and found a "thumbnail" of a female luteplayer painted by hemessen or an anonymus. did someone has a larger print of this painting? on the right of this painting is an open lutebook/musicbook. but my reproduction is too sm

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
- Original Message - From: Jon Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; lutesmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 22 October 2003 08:29 Subject: Re: Holbein, addendum > Maps and globes, maybe he ran out of paint or ran out of steam. Broken > strings, maybe the player had a broken s

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
> Deum" is it a coincidence? No, he's playing with ideas and symbols, some of > them obvious (like the second) some completely inaudible (like the first). > But when we discover these things, we can be sure they were done for a reason > and that there may well be more features of the same kind whi

Re: Holbein, again

2003-10-22 Thread David Van Edwards
At 10:17 PM +0200 21/10/03, Gernot Hilger wrote: >Wolfgang Wiehe has sent pics of another Holbein from Berlin including a >lute, including double frets. Same place: >http://www.jsbach.mynetcologne.de/ambassadors.html >g Dear Gernot, Ah yes that very nice picture in the Gemaeldegalerie. I went to

MASH

2003-10-22 Thread Tony Chalkley
We recently got a special offer on MASH (first series) DVDs - last night we were watching the episode "Dear Dad - Again", and at the end Trapper was strumming a large pear-shaped but apparently flatbacked instrument - it looks to be wire strung and therefore some sort of cittern - has anybody seen

Re: Holbein, short essay on web

2003-10-22 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear All, I've now put up the small essay on the picture which Germnot provided on my lute of the month section. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/month.htm Best wishes, David

Re: MASH

2003-10-22 Thread Are Vidar Boye Hansen
That must be a Pipa, the main lute of the far east. mvh Are Vidar Boye Hansen On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Tony Chalkley wrote: > We recently got a special offer on MASH (first series) DVDs - last night we > were watching the episode "Dear Dad - Again", and at the end Trapper was > strumming a large pea

Re: Request, music

2003-10-22 Thread Ed Durbrow
On my links page, I have a list of all the sites that I know about that have tablature for download. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/links.html cheers, >if anyone can >send me a bit of French notation for Renaissance tune I'd appreciate it. -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.j

baroque guitar for sale

2003-10-22 Thread Anna Kowalska & Anton Birula
BAROQUE GUITAR FOR SALE by Michael Fedchenko, 2003 Voboam body type. Specially designed as a 6-course instrument to enlarge continuo possibilities as well as to play wider repertoire. Can be also tuned in G, then works as a rather loud vihuela. Comes with fitted hard case. Pictures can be seen on

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Caroline Usher
At 05:23 PM 10/21/2003 +, you wrote: >Sean: > >That sounds believable and probably closer to the truth than my explanation. >That being said the issue still remains true, in some degree or another the >demise of the Lute was in part to the increasing influence of the Protestant >religions who v

Background knowledge

2003-10-22 Thread adS
Dear lute netters, this might be fun reading for anybody interested in Elizabethan life: www.renaissance.dm.net/compendium/ Rainer adS

Lute as a vanity

2003-10-22 Thread Caroline Usher
The tradition of vanity pictures or emblems goes back to Ecclesiastes: "Vanity, vanity, all is vanity." And so forth. This life is temporary and ends in death and decay. Remember that you too shall die, and repent so as to have life everlasting. These pictures often contain a skull to drive

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Caroline and all, on Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Caroline Usher wrote: > If it was contrapuntal music that was considered objectionable, then > what about all the contrapuntal music for organ or for choir? I seem to > remember a very prolific composer of contrapuntal church music named JS > Bach.

Re: Lute as a vanity

2003-10-22 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Caroline, Nicely put. Music is certainly an ephemeral art. There is, for example, a nice vanitas on the title page of Fuhrmann's _Testudo Gallo-Germanica_ (1615). We have been discussing Holbein's "Ambassadors" of late. The most significant feature of this painting is the extraordinary skull

Re: Lute as a vanity

2003-10-22 Thread lutesmith
Stewart, This web link from Dr Wiehe http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/ARTH214/Amb_LuthHymnbook.html#anc identifies the verso page as Luther's translation of the hymn Veni sancte Spiritus from Johannnes Walther's Geistlich Gesangbuhli (Holy Hymnbook) 1st ed (Wittenberg, 1524). The r

FW: Stan Beutens Lute Library

2003-10-22 Thread Michael Peterson
-- Forwarded Message From: Michael Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Bay Area Lute Announcements" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:59:55 -0700 To: "Bay Area Lute Announcements" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Stan Beutens Lute Library Is being liquidated, and there are a numbe

Re: Holbein, addendum

2003-10-22 Thread Jon Murphy
May I thank the list for the excellent and informative responses to my comments on the symbolism and artistry (compared and contrasted as intent) of the paintings of Holbein's time. And to my comments on the loss of the lute and other instruments in the Calvinist churches. It is late, and I have a

Re: MASH

2003-10-22 Thread Robert
I doubt that it was a pipa - they have a really distinctive shape, curved back, and 4 silk strings. I've seen all of the M.A.S.H. episodes several times through. I have a vague image in my mind of something that reminded me of a mandora. I can't really remember though. I may just be free-associatin