Re: Historical cost of lutes - J.S.Bach's `lute' his Estate

2003-11-14 Thread Jon Murphy
I bought my family's first TV in 1949, an aunt had given me some money. It was a 14" Emerson and cost $200. I can now get a 19" color TV for less than that. But a medium range automobile cost about $1200 then, and now costs about $20,000. Three hundred years ago, in New England, lobster were thrown

Re: Historical cost of lutes - J.S.Bach's `lute' his Estate

2003-11-14 Thread Howard Posner
Michael Stitt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Of interest to me is what a lute worth $1,512, or 21 rtl in 18th century > German currency is relative todays prices for a lute. It's nonsense to say that 21 reichsthaler was equivalent to $1,512 in modern (U.S., I presume) currency. I'm not saying tha

Re: Historical cost of lutes - J.S.Bach's `lute' his Estate

2003-11-14 Thread Michael Stitt
Of interest to me is what a lute worth $1,512, or 21 rtl in 18th century German currency is relative todays prices for a lute. This sum appears at the end of Christoph Wolff’s monumental biography on Bach that was published in 2000, and refers to the reference to the price given to Bach's `lut

Re: Historical cost of lutes - Matheson & Baron.

2003-11-14 Thread Michael Stitt
My quoted source was not quite right, it is Mattheson who asserted: "In addition, there is trouble with bad or spliced strings, especially the charantarelle, and trouble with frets and tuning pegs, so that I have had it heard that it costs as much in Paris to keep a lute as a horse." Baron re

Re: Historical cost of lutes - Mattheson & Baron.

2003-11-14 Thread Michael Stitt
My quoted source was not quite right, it is Mattheson who asserted: "In addition, there is trouble with bad or spliced strings, especially the charantarelle, and trouble with frets and tuning pegs, so that I have had it heard that it costs as much in Paris to keep a lute as a horse." Baron re

Dalza pieces in staff notation

2003-11-14 Thread J. Luis Rojo
Dear friends, Indeed, the best Dalza collection in "staff notation" (printed), as far I know, they are the volumes of "Die Tabulatur" - Hofmeister Edition. The price in 2003 web Catalog is 9,50 Euro, each volume. http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/ "Die Tabulatur" have a format of three sim

Once more on the mandola

2003-11-14 Thread corun
Folks, My friend with the mandola has decided to sell it and put the money towards a lute. He's asked me to ask you what you think this instrument might be worth. The pictures can be seen at; http://medievalist.org/lute/mandola/mandol.html No need to clutter the bandwidth on the list, please s

Re: Historical cost of lutes.

2003-11-14 Thread Herbert Ward
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Jerzy ZAK wrote: > .. and a country, Herbert !!! In some European countries it runs from 4 > months ('student lute') to 2 years' salary, ...but it's getting better. Yes, there is a difference of scale. A beginning policeman in America could buy a concert quality lute for 4

Re: Broken Chanterelle

2003-11-14 Thread Ed Durbrow
>I looked at where it broke (and used the remaining string to retune - which >broke again in a short time). I thought I had clean string (it had broken at >the bridge tie), but I assume that the new section, being already stretched >and stressed, wasn't able to support a new bridge knot (as it brok

Matthew Spring's book

2003-11-14 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear All, You may be interested to know that Matthew Spring's book, _The Lute In Britain _ (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2001) has won the Nicolas Bessaraboff Prize awarded by AMIS, the American Musical Instrument Society. The award is for 2003, and is for the best book on musical instruments

Re: Broken Chanterelle

2003-11-14 Thread Patrick H
I would second Arto's theory. I have never broken a chanterelle. Now, my guitar's e string...that is another matter. I break them all the time. Arto Wikla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Jon > I have joined the club, my flat back may or not be considered a lute, but > it shares one chara

Re: My return to the list and a little off topic -EMA

2003-11-14 Thread Roman Turovsky
> I studied the classical guitar at the Guildhall School of Music in London > with Hector Quine. As a student I showed an interest in playing the lute, > but my teacher claimed that playing the lute was a failure to accept the > challenges of the guitar. Here ended any possible lute career! in fact

Re: Historical cost of lutes.

2003-11-14 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Marcus and Michael, In fact Mace says exactly the opposite. He refutes the claim that keeping a lute is as expensive as keeping a horse: Thomas Mace, _Musick's Monument_ (London, 1676), page 46: "That one had as good keep a Horse (for Cost) as a Lute, is the Fourth Objection. This likewise

Re: Broken Chanterelle

2003-11-14 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Jon > I have joined the club, my flat back may or not be considered a lute, but > it shares one characteristic. The chanterelle broke after five days of > stringing. Welcome to the club! But I think there is an error in your "shares a characteristic" statement! I have played lutes since t

Re: My return to the list and a little off topic -EMA

2003-11-14 Thread Maurice Cope
Thank you Ron, I have recently returned to the list after a three-year gap, although I have never written to the list before. The reason for this is that I am first and foremost a guitarist. I do however have a strong interest in the lute and find the readings very interesting and often inspiring.

Re: Historical cost of lutes.

2003-11-14 Thread P-Kiraly
Dear Friends, [DEL: > How much did a lute cost 1500-1650, in t= erms of months of salary? :DEL] The Polish royal court paid Bakfark August 1551 12 Polish= florins for a lute, which he bought in Cracow. At that time Bakfark earned yearly about 9= 2 Polish Florins. T

Re: Historical cost of lutes.

2003-11-14 Thread Jon Murphy
> In some European countries it runs from 4 months ('student lute') to 2 > years' salary, ...but it's getting better. > Jerzy And you wonder why my first lute is that flat back kit. Not all musicians trying to expand their horizons can afford to spend a significant sum to start an instrument. Wer

Broken Chanterelle

2003-11-14 Thread Jon Murphy
I have joined the club, my flat back may or not be considered a lute, but it shares one characteristic. The chanterelle broke after five days of stringing. I looked at where it broke (and used the remaining string to retune - which broke again in a short time). I thought I had clean string (it had