Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Christopher Schaub
I think you'll find that the best players play both thumb positions -- it's dependant on the music really. It would be very difficult to play much of the later music with larger lutes (10+ courses) with thumb under -- you can't get to the lower courses as easily. I had to learn Jesu Joy of Man's

Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
is there any site with a description of the several right hand techniques? I recommend: http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1.html Alfonso Marin's collection of lute related pictures. A picture is worth a thousand words. cheers, -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/

Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
It would be very difficult to play much of the later music with larger lutes (10+ courses) with thumb under -- you can't get to the lower courses as easily. I don't understand this. How does the hand position make a difference on the deep bass courses? I am stretching to the max to hit the

thumb under/out

2003-11-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
It would be very difficult to play much of the later music with larger lutes (10+ courses) with thumb under -- you can't get to the lower courses as easily. I don't understand this. How does the hand position make a difference on the deep bass courses? Or, how does thumb under make it

Re: 19th cent string question+ nylgut

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Thames
I've recently made the switch to gut on my Baroque lute. I've had the strings on for about 10 days now. The sound of gut is almost a religious experience, but find I can't keep them in tune through one piece. This is extremely frustrating,as the nylgut that I 'm used to stayed in tune for hours.

Re: 19th cent string question+ nylgut

2003-11-17 Thread bill sterling
I think part of the answer is the temperature of the strings change as your hands warm them. I have learned not to tune my gut-strung lute straight out of the case, because in 10 minutes or so I will have to do it again. Instead I just hold the lute (sometimes without playing at all) and make

Fwd: Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Craig Hartley
You can see an animation of Jacob Heringman's right hand playing with 'thumb under' technique on the home page of his website www.heringman.com. You just move your mouse over the close-up pictures of his hand and his hand will move. Of course whether you do this 'mouse under' or 'mouse over' is

Re: Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Craig, Many thanks. That's extremely useful. You can see clearly how the right-hand index finger follows through its stroke past the thumbnail. It is very instructive for anyone wishing to understand thumb-inside. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: Craig

Re: Historical cost of lutes - J.S.Bach's `lute' his Estate

2003-11-17 Thread Herbert Ward
Then too, you have the problem of how socialized the two societies are/were. Some governments pay for medical care, education, roads, entertainment, arts, etc. Some pay for little more than police, military, and palaces. X dollars per year in a socialized country might be more than 2X

Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Jason Kortis
I've never played thumb in or thumb under or whatever it may be called, but does it really facilitate the thumb-index alternation of FAST scalar runs? It would great if someone could post a compressed video with audio demonstrating the benfits of this tecnique.With thumb out technique, I can

Reports from Lute Courses

2003-11-17 Thread Stefan Lundgren
Dear LuteNet, many pictures and few words: Sweden in Mai: (with our friend Thomas Schall) (the pictures are a little big, but I think they are worth it) http://www.luteonline.de/courses.htm and Germany in November: http://www.luteonline.de/landshut.htm Best wishes Stefan Lundgren --

Ymirs Death

2003-11-17 Thread Stefan Lundgren
Dear companions, Old mythology + electronic music =3D GUDASAGA YMIRS DEATH The other race in the world are the gods, the Aesir. The leader of the gods= is Odin (lute). The Aesir want to stop the ungoverned spreading of the gia= nts and trolls, and so Odin kills Ymir. Listen to:

Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread KennethBeLute
In a message dated 11/17/03 10:08:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can see an animation of Jacob Heringman's right hand playing with 'thumb under' technique on the home page of his website www.heringman.com. You can also find video clips (no sound!) showing

Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Vance Wood
Hi James: I look forward to your pictures/movie. I think any time you are = discussing technique people around here come alive. It is encouraging = to me that there are so many who are playing thumb out, or at least = playing around with the technique. I first started serious study of the =

that strange measure (fwd)

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Nightingale
Oh List, I wondering about the following measure in the part of the first lute of Besard's Branles de Village for g and d lutes. The measure occurs in the second segment of the fourth branle. The first segment starts and ends with half measures, which are separated by seven full measures. The

Re: damenstcke

2003-11-17 Thread Stewart McCoy
Though a Roman perusal May meet a refusal, A McCoy-made charade Isn't hard. :-) SAM On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Roman Turovsky wrote: The perusal will be somewhat taxing, as the piece is ca.120 bars long, but I hope that the impending delectation would be unimpeded. Thanks Sarn, It

Fine Nacks for Ladies

2003-11-17 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear All, I was sent the following in a private e-mail off list, and the sender said I could pass it on: -o-O-o- I'm fascinated by the OED definitions of knacks, particularly by the ones which relate the word to ingenious contrivances -- note also the 17th-century quotation All those pretty

Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Jason, To answer your question: absolutely no reason at all. If you are happy with thumb-outside, go for it. Stay with it. Enjoy it. play quickly and happily. It's absolutely fine. Laurencini played that way, as did Dowland in later life. There is a famous picture of Bakfark playing

Re: The Right Hand Revisited

2003-11-17 Thread Edward Martin
I agree. Do what suits you. I play thumb under for the earlier renaissance music, thumb out for baroque. ed At 12:31 AM 11/18/03 +, Stewart McCoy wrote: Dear Jason, To answer your question: absolutely no reason at all. If you are happy with thumb-outside, go for it. Stay with it. Enjoy

Re: damenstücke

2003-11-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
A lutenist Stewart McCoy, middle-aged, but inside still a boy, Once wrote a charade on his house's facade, now his neighbours are cloyed, oy-oy-oy... RT Though a Roman perusal May meet a refusal, A McCoy-made charade Isn't hard. :-) SAM The perusal will be somewhat taxing, as the

Re: 19th cent string question+ nylgut

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Thames
I thought that the rule was, gut didn't react to temperature but only to humidity, this seems to be untrue at least in my case. It seems gut reacts just as bad to temperature changes as to humidity changes. Michael Thames Luthier www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com - Original Message - From: