Re: lute strings (durably)

2004-05-23 Thread Eric Liefeld
Dear Mimmo, Your last e-mail makes considerable sense to me. I've been experimenting with a gut top course on the mandolino (g'' with a .4mm polished gut string). These strings generally last very briefly, a day or two for some... a few hours for others. Your notion that polishing the string sm

Re: Tablature

2004-05-23 Thread Craig Robert Pierpont
Hi List, Thanks for all your input on the tabulature questions. I've always been a play by the notes kind of guy but I'm taking a long over due look at the tablatures and I appreciate all your help. Thanks, Craig Craig R. Pierpont Another Era Lutherie www.anotherera.com

Goodbye!

2004-05-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, _really dear_ lutenists! To me the previous events in the world, those that I could even call "war crimes" and "crimes against humanity", have occurred to me so horrible and so serious that I really have to work with my attitude to the USA altogether. So, I'll quit from writing

Holborne Vol.1

2004-05-23 Thread Tmuska
Hello. I am new to the list and am looking for a copy of the Harvard University Publications Volume 1 (Music for Lute and Bandora by Anthony Holborne). If anyone has one for sale or can help locate one, I would really appreciate it. I had a copy years ago, but it dissappeared long since. Thanks.

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread Ariel Abramovich
Dear all, If it is interesting, I've been using nylgut for years, in all of my lutes and vihuelas, and it is true that it takes a short while until you find the right gauges, but once you've done it, it is for my taste the best synthetic option available today in the market. Advantages

Re: lute strings (durably)

2004-05-23 Thread Mimmo
Hi Richard, I am still astonished: my convintion was that more than 280 Hz x mt of breagking index was not possible to do. Things were so, instead. I have checked accurately the lute top string manufacturing ( that employ 2 guts...) and the chemical treatment (Alun, alkali etc..). So I have seen th

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Sean, on Sun, 23 May 2004, lutesmith wrote: > Ah, well, thanks for trying. Of course I was kidding about blue, green and > striped (this for Arto). To me!? You mean the "Rumsfeld country: 'cameras forbidden'"? :-( Arto

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread lutesmith
Mostly agreements another 2 more cents. At 11:25 AM 5/23/04, you wrote: >Hello, may I do some suggestions about nylgut? >Here the first, usefull to stabilize nylgut immediately: stretch generously >by hands each nylgut strings in the midele of the length of bone to bridge >during the tuning and s

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Stephen, I have been using Nylgut strings on both of my 6 course lutes for about 2 years (still the first set on both so far!). I have plain nylgut down to the fourth course and octaves on the 5th & 6th with Pyramid basses. Both instruments are played very regularly (most days). I find the str

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread arckon
Stephen-- I'm very amateur, but have been playing for some time; haven't done a lot of experimenting with stringing, but FWIW: I like nylgut over other synthetics for the feel and sound; I like it over gut for its relatively greater stability and lesser cost. For my treble g I use a s

Re: Tablature

2004-05-23 Thread arckon
The diagonal lines may indicate a held note, particularly if they extend from a bass note and continue under a moving upper line. If it is an open string, try to let it ring; if fretted, try to keep it fretted until the line ends, which sometimes requires some left-hand fingering strategy

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread Mimmo
Hello, may I do some suggestions about nylgut? Here the first, usefull to stabilize nylgut immediately: stretch generously by hands each nylgut strings in the midele of the length of bone to bridge during the tuning and stop this operation only when they have'nt any more displacement and stay in tu

Re: Tablature

2004-05-23 Thread Vance Wood
Hi Craig: Usually dots under notes indicate what fingers of the right hand the notes should be played with, one dot = index finger, two dots = middle finger, and occasionally three dots = ring finger. The line you described is found in some musical sources to indicate that the particular note whe

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread lutesmith
Oh, one more thing about nylgut If you keep a spare topstring in your case for the enevitable breakage, don't choose nylgut if the situation is critical. Make it real gut if possible. Synthetics take much longer to stabilize. You might get away w/ a nylgut if you have an hour lead time but

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread lutesmith
Stephen, I often use Nylgut on the 1st and 2nd courses and 4th course octave of my 6-c lutes. I like: the similar density to gut it's tuning is usually predictable (but the thin ones go a little atonal after 6 months). they are inexpensive I don't like (but deem acceptable): the hardness (it

Re: Tablature

2004-05-23 Thread lutesmith
What is the book? Is it a facsimile? The diagaonal line: If it is a CNRS book it may mean to hold that bass note or sometims inner voices. The single dot directly underneath and on the off beats usually means to use the r.h. index finger. If it alternates w/ a double dot then the composer sugg

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Stephen and Thomas On 23 May 2004, Thomas Schall wrote: > I am using Nylgut on my renaissance lute and my Vihuela with good > results. > In my opionion nylgut's the second best possible solution for stringing > (after pure gut). I am using Nylgut because it provides me the > compromise of

Tablature

2004-05-23 Thread RichardTomBeck
Hello Craig, I'm a complete amateur at the lute, but I seem to remember reading that dots above or below certain notes indicate that those notes form the melody line of a song which the lute accompanies. Does that make sense? Cheers Tom Beck --

Re: Tablature

2004-05-23 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi Craig, what's the title of the tabulature? Usually a dot under letter indicates the right hand fingering (index finger). I guess the "rising lines" are basses (how many lines does the tabulature system have? Early french tabulature often has just 5 lines and the basses an the 6th and 7th cour

Re: Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi Stephen, I am using Nylgut on my renaissance lute and my Vihuela with good results. In my opionion nylgut's the second best possible solution for stringing (after pure gut). I am using Nylgut because it provides me the compromise of staying better/longer in tune and a sound close to gut. Anyh

Tablature

2004-05-23 Thread Craig Robert Pierpont
Hi List, I am looking at some tablature and there are some markings I am not sure how to interpret. This is 16 th century French tablature. Directly under about half of the notes is a dot. ? In the bottom space of many of the measures is a rising diagonal line. Sometimes there are two. These l

Tablature

2004-05-23 Thread Craig Robert Pierpont
Hi List, I am looking at some tablature and there are some markings I am not sure how to interpret. This is 16 th century French tablature. Directly under about half of the notes is a dot. ? In the bottom space of many of the measures is a rising diagonal line. Sometimes there are two. These l

Nylgut

2004-05-23 Thread Stephen Arndt
Hello to All! I read with interest Bill's response to Charles concerning nylgut = strings. I have been wanting to try nylgut, but the luthier who made my = instrument has a rather low opinion of them, so I haven't yet. Since = Bill plays the oud rather than the lute, I'm wondering whether any = Re

lute strings (durability)

2004-05-23 Thread RichardTomBeck
Dear All, Grateful thanks for the many helpful replies I have had. I've phoned up my luthier, and he suggested I bring the instrument along for him to have another look at. It's only about 3/4 of an hour in the car, the weather is nice, the place where is lives is lovely, and it'll make a very

lute strings (durably)

2004-05-23 Thread Mimmo
Hi Richard, things are a bit different. The breacking index is the theoric point were a gut string broken, in my = case an average of 260 Hzxmt. so it mean that in a lute in g with a-440 Hz the vibrating string lenght = were a gut string (of every gauge) is 66 cms. For a working lenght need a short

Re: lute string (durably)

2004-05-23 Thread Richard Corran
Using your numbers, I calculate that to reach g at 440 Hz I could use a lute up to 660 mm string length using 260 Hz x m.In fact I can't get much above f with this string length. At 680 mm string length most top strings are true for less than a week at f.I think your numbers are too o