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2004-09-28 Thread bill kilpatrick
in response to an off-list letter from stewart i included the following address: http://www.ckua.org/liv_lrn/bodies/travldet.cfm?p_ID=14551 a couple of years ago a nice girl from canada interviewed me for a show i did with another artist here in town. it's not my best work but it's all i have i

OT - organ terms

2004-09-28 Thread doc rossi
Hi Folks, Does anyone out there know enough Italian and enough about organs to give me a had with a few terms that I need to translate (IT into ENG)? I've done the library and internet research but there are still a few things I can't find. Thanks a lot, Doc To get on or off this list see

Vihuela vs guitar

2004-09-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Roman, There may be some truth in what you say, but it doesn't explain why the guitar flourished, and the lute didn't. Both instruments are a bit on the quiet side for large concert halls. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: OT - organ terms

2004-09-28 Thread bill kilpatrick
dear doc - my italian is ok for olives but not much else - certainly not anatomy ... - bill --- doc rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Does anyone out there know enough Italian and enough > about organs to > give me a had with a few terms that I need to > translate (IT into E

Re: OT - organ terms

2004-09-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:49 PM 9/28/2004, bill kilpatrick wrote: >my italian is ok for olives but not much else - >certainly not anatomy ... How about portatif? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Vihuela vs guitar

2004-09-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I don't think the guitar really did flourish. At about the time the lute was busying itself with entering obscurity, the guitar was doing the same. Certainly, there were occasional efforts at keeping each instrument active. However, between the time of great 5-course composers of the high ba

Re: Vihuela vs guitar

2004-09-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
I have an opinion on that as well, but that would hurt a lot of feelings out there. So I'll abstain. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > Dear Roman, > There may be some truth in what you say, but it doesn't explain why > the guitar flourished, and the lute didn't. Bot

Re: Vihuela vs guitar

2004-09-28 Thread Joe Mayes
Thank you for that, RT. Joseph Mayes > From: Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:20:12 -0400 > To: Lute Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Vihuela vs guitar > > I have an opinion on that as well, but that would hurt a lot of feelings out > there. So I'll abstain. >

Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, as far as I know, there are some intabulated lute songs by Arnolt Schlick. Perhaps 1520's? Does any of you happen to know anything of these? Are they printed or ms.? Are there any published re-prints or at least modern editions? Thanks! Arto -- http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wik

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Arto, The book is a print entitled "Tabulaturen etlicher Lobgesang" by Arnolt Schlick, published in 1512 and containing German keyboard tablature and lute songs set in mensural notation with German lute tablature. (Brown 1512 / 1). There is a nice facsimile published by Tree Edition which was

Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Arto, There is a modern edition published by Ugrino Verlag, Hamburg, in 1957. Goodness knows if it is still in print. It has a few facsimile pages. I also have a facsimile edition published by the Zentralantiquariat der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik_, Leipzig, 1977. They may have changed

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Gernot Hilger
Dear Stewart, this chord is almost unplayable (I can just manage it, but I probably have quite large hands), but it sounds weirdish, to say the least. It could of course be fingered with an f on the 4th course making it much easier. Might I ask you to provide one bar before and after the event

Re: Vihuela vs guitar

2004-09-28 Thread Vance Wood
Concerning the survival of the Guitar: This is just speculation but it makes sense to me. By the time the Guitar was gaining in popular use among the low down and unwashed for banging out chords the Lute had evolved into something not everyone could play that was not a serious musician. The conce

Re: Vihuela vs guitar

2004-09-28 Thread bill kilpatrick
--- Vance Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Concerning the survival of the Guitar: > > This is just speculation but it makes sense to me. > By the time the Guitar > was gaining in popular use among the low down and > unwashed for banging out > chords the Lute had evolved into something not > ev

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Rainer
Stewart McCoy wrote: > Dear Arto, > > There is a modern edition published by Ugrino Verlag, Hamburg, in > 1957. Goodness knows if it is still in print. It has a few facsimile > pages. > > I also have a facsimile edition published by the Zentralantiquariat > der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik_

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Rainer
Gernot Hilger wrote: > Dear Stewart, > > this chord is almost unplayable (I can just manage it, but I probably > have quite large hands), but it sounds weirdish, to say the least. It > could of course be fingered with an f on the 4th course making it much > easier. Might I ask you to provide on

AW: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Elias Fuchs
Dear Arto, I have the 16 "songs" in modern notation. They are without words even in the original print of 1512, just the titles of the songs are there. Nr.1 - 12 is 2 voices for lute plus 1 extra line for melodyinstrument, and Nr.13 - 16 is all 2 or 3 voices for lute alone.I can send you photocopi

Re: Vihuela vs guitar

2004-09-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
Aside from some unpleasant demographic considerations, the Lute was designed for THE PRINCIPLE OF SINGLE AFFECT, the defining characteristic of the Baroque. So, naturally, the Lute lost its usefulness as soon as that principle went out of vogue during late Classicism. RT __ Roman M. Tu

Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Gernot, Unless I have misunderstood what is going on, Schlick has misunderstood what Virdung was trying to do. Considering the animosity between the two, Schlick's misunderstanding may have been deliberate. I think Virdung's aim is merely to show how to turn staff notation into German tablatu

Re: Songs by A.Schlick?

2004-09-28 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
If memory serves, one of the early volumes of "Die Tabulatur" has at = least some of the pieces from this work (I don't recall if they did the = entire thing or not). You should be able to find it at a decent music = library. Guy - Original Message -=20 From: Rainer