Re: Nanki manuscript

2005-04-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Marco Pesci (and all) On Tuesday 26 April 2005 01:00, marcopesci wrote: In my opinion that archlute was tuning with octaved courses on 4th, 5th and 6th, exactly like 6 renaissance lute. Nanki ms. has very closed connections with an italian manuscirpt treatise on continuo for the

archlute topstring question

2005-04-26 Thread Taco Walstra
Has anybody an answer to the following. Archlutes often have a stringlength of about 65 cm. Tuning at 415 hz gives for a gut topstring a tension of 40 N, which is very high. My experience so far is that a gut string of 0.40 mm (I take 1350 kg/m3) is dying within an hour. I.e. not breaking but

Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio

2005-04-26 Thread Alexander Batov
There is a brilliant book (if you read German) on the early violin by Brigitte Geiser: Studien zur Fruhgeschichte der Violine, Verlag Paul Haupt Bern und Stuttgart, 1974 The author lists and analyzes wide array of written sources of what could ever be related to the subject (rubeba, viella, viola,

Re: archlute topstring question

2005-04-26 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Taco and All, Preferred sring tension obviously varies a bit between people. I find 40N OK for a single top string on a 60cm lute, dropping to about 30N for (double) second course and 28N for most of the rest. Opinion amongst modern stringmakers seems to be that the thinnest string

Re: archlute topstring question

2005-04-26 Thread Edward Martin
Dear Taco, This is one of the mysteries we have yet to answer. In my opinion, with the larger instruments with longer string lengths, the instrument was tuned lower. For example, your 65 cm lute should actually be in F, not in G (a=440). That string length exceeds the upper limits of gut.

Re: archlute topstring question

2005-04-26 Thread Alexander Batov
Taco Walstra wrote: ... So what was put on for example a sellas in the past? Was everything tuned down to 392 Hz? Some instruments were even 67 cm, so how to handle such an instrument without using carbon strings? Taco Walstra Lower pitch tuning (392Hz or even lower) + transposition

Re: archlute topstring question

2005-04-26 Thread Taco Walstra
On Tuesday 26 April 2005 15:09, you wrote: I have the same problem with my gut strung baroque lute, at 70.5 cm. I have it at 415, but the longest one should have for a treble (F at 415) is 68 cm. Anything else will break prematurely. The answer is that this instrument should be at a = 392.

Weiss MS

2005-04-26 Thread Michael Thames
I recall a while back the question came up regarding the use of the A finger, in baroque lute music in general, and of Weiss in particular. Someone mentioned that Weiss, specifically called for the use of A, in certain pieces. Are there any indications of this in the London MS? If not

Contemporary music in the LSA Quarterly, very nice!

2005-04-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, in the LSA Quarterly, , No.1, there are some nice contemporary lute compositions. It is very nice to promote also new music for lute! Many thanks to editors! And of course to the composers... :-) I like especially The Dauphin by Carver Blanchard and Le tombeau de Louis

Re: Antwort: Weiss MS

2005-04-26 Thread Michael Thames
take a look at the d-major capriccio fairly at the beginning of the first book - I don't have it at hand but it simulates barriolage which is common for violin players. Best Thomas Thomas, There's a Capriccio in D towards the end of volume 2, but I can't find any direct indication of A

Stability of tuning.

2005-04-26 Thread Herbert Ward
Suppose you took a lute and turned half the pegs up 5-15 cents, and half the pegs down 5-15 cents, so that its tuning was com- pletely clobbered. Now suppose you handed the lute to a person who was very good at tuning lutes, and knew all the tricks. Could he tune the lute so that it would

Re: Contemporary music in the LSA Quarterly, very nice!

2005-04-26 Thread Lutebets
Hi, Arto and lutenists -- I was the editor for the February issue of the LSA Quarterly, and I'm heartened to hear your good words about the compositions in the issue. I feel strongly about encouraging the composition and performance of new lute music! To my embarrassment, the omission of the

Re: Contemporary music in the LSA Quarterly, very nice!

2005-04-26 Thread Alain Veylit
Divine retribution for using Sibelius? :) Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Arto and lutenists -- I was the editor for the February issue of the LSA Quarterly, and I'm heartened to hear your good words about the compositions in the issue. I feel strongly about encouraging the composition

recorder lute

2005-04-26 Thread Bernd Haegemann
hi all, I would like to play something together with a friend who plays the recorder. Are there any resources on the web for recorder (or just playable on a recorder) and baroque lute? thanks! Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at

Aquila Corde Armoniche is changed

2005-04-26 Thread Aquilacorde
Dear Aquila's friends, Starting from today, 26 April 2005 Aquila's setting is changed: Aquila Corde Armoniche di Mimmo Peruffo C S.a.s. Via Aviano 10, 36030 Caldogno, (Vicenza) Italy; Phone +444 986972; Fax +444 989399 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: www.aquilacorde.com The are no any

Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio

2005-04-26 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio There is a brilliant book (if you read German) on the early

Re: Contemporary music in the LSA Quarterly, very nice!

2005-04-26 Thread timothy motz
I'm had similar things happen to tablature I've downloaded in pdf format. When I went to print them, it's come out as blank tablature. Handy if I had needed blank tablature, but not much use if I wanted to play that particular piece of music. I've resorted to using a print to pdf function on my

Re: Antwort: Weiss MS

2005-04-26 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi Michael, I directed you to the wrong place. Finally being at home I checked the London Ms and the piece I meant is on Folio 8v (Courante). There is no direct indication of the a-finger. Actually you won't find anything about that in any source. My teacher asked me to solve such passages

Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio

2005-04-26 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: Alexander Batov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Widening the net -- Viola da Braccio By the way, the picture on the page

Re: Stability of tuning.

2005-04-26 Thread demery
Herbert Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Could he tune the lute so that it would still be in tune 24-48 hours later? maybe, it would be hard to do that for a piano, two tunings, maybe three with some time in between would do the piano. HOwever, we are neglecting something. Two days is a lot of

Re: archlute top string question

2005-04-26 Thread Eastwellm
Yes, there is a real problem about pitch standards and the string length of many barouque plucked instruments. 13 course lutes are quite often longer than the 70.5 cms Ed mentions, and there is a large chamber repertory for such instruments with flute, so that the lute needs to conform to the

Re: archlute topstring question

2005-04-26 Thread Edward Martin
You bring up many interesting questions, Taco. Yes, it would be confusing to learn continuo in F rather than G, but I do not think it would be all that difficult for you, as once you learn G, to transpose to F would not take all that long. Another option would be to treat your archlute as an

Re: recorder lute

2005-04-26 Thread corun
Bernd wrote: I would like to play something together with a friend who plays the recorder. Are there any resources on the web for recorder (or just playable on a recorder) and baroque lute? Dear Bernd, I don't know about Baroque, but Schott publishes a nice set of Dowland's Lachrimae for lute

Re: recorder lute

2005-04-26 Thread Alain Veylit
There is a nice suite by Baron for Baroque lute and flute - I think the flute part can be played on a recorder in F Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd wrote: I would like to play something together with a friend who plays the recorder. Are there any resources on the web for recorder (or

Lute repair

2005-04-26 Thread Judecass
Would appreciate receiving the name of a good luthier. I am in Westbury, NY (Nassau County). Have a not-very-good lute with a cracked pegbox. Ideally would get a new lute, but with two children selfishly demanding a college education my options are limited. Thanks. -- To get on or off this

Re: Lute repair

2005-04-26 Thread Roman Turovsky
Luthiers avoid working on other luthiers' instruments, as a rule. The best luthier in tri-state are is Cezar Mateus http://polyhymnion.org/mateus RT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:55:04 -0400 (EDT) To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Lute repair Would appreciate

Huwett

2005-04-26 Thread Bruno Correia
Dear all, Recently I have been working on the Huwett fantasia by Robert Dowland’s “A varietie of lute lessons”. I’m trying to find recordings of this piece but unfortunately I just found two, one from Lutz Kirchof and another by Nigel North. In both recordings the piece is played as if the lute

Re: Huwett

2005-04-26 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: Bruno Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:18 pm Subject: Huwett Dear all, Recently I have been working on the Huwett fantasia by Robert Dowland’s“A varietie of lute lessons”. I’m trying to find recordings of this piece but

Re: Huwett

2005-04-26 Thread Elliott Chapin
Some time ago I voiced to Miles Dempster, and later to Paul O'Dette, a thought about this piece: A seemingly meandering bridge actually contains the main theme. This idea was apparently new at the time. More I can't tell at the moment because my copy went with one of the Michael Schreiner lutes

Re: Huwett

2005-04-26 Thread Edward Martin
Dear Bruno, I have no idea about Lutz Kirchof. But as for Nigel, when he recorded the variety CD, has had an instrument built for the occasion. The book is actually written for a 9 course lute, somewhat of an oddity. In judging from instruments at the time that would have been used, they

Re: Antwort: Weiss MS

2005-04-26 Thread Michael Thames
Hi Michael, I directed you to the wrong place. Finally being at home I checked the London Ms and the piece I meant is on Folio 8v (Courante). There is no direct indication of the a-finger. Actually you won't find anything about that in any source. Thanks Thomas, If I remember correctly,

Re: Huwett

2005-04-26 Thread Miles Dempster
Yes Elliott, It certainly does state the theme again in the bridge. Trust you to find it, even though it leaps octaves. Miles On Tuesday, April 26, 2005, at 10:20 PM, Elliott Chapin wrote: Some time ago I voiced to Miles Dempster, and later to Paul O'Dette, a thought about this piece: A

Re: archlute topstring question

2005-04-26 Thread LGS-Europe
For a while I've had the first string on my archlute (64cm in g') in the lower octave. Worked fine for continuo, but after all I missed the high notes so I changed back to the high octave. I can live with the life span of gut 0.40mm at 415 and 0.38mm at 440. One of the John Passions this season