[LUTE] Re: Broken consort

2008-10-05 Thread Nancy Carlin
I last played the broken consorts a long, long time ago with a recorder and don't remember any problems with the octave shifts. I do remember some concern about whether the lute was loud enough. More recently I have enjoyed the CD by L'Poem Harmoniqe Love Is Strange, which includes b

[LUTE] Re: Broken consort

2008-10-05 Thread demery
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008, Doc Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> 2. NRI current historical notes on cittern strings extract In 1602 >> "Meuler was able to produce an even stronger wire, which allowed the >> small cittern to tune up to g" note that the so-called mueller wire is argued, clear that

[LUTE] Re: Broken consort

2008-10-05 Thread Doc Rossi
Hi Martyn, Thanks. I had forgotten about the small Praetorius cittern. I was thinking of the Playford gittern/guitar tuning and wondering why people would use that, but now that you've reminded me of Praetorius, it's all clear. What I understood is that people are using a gittern tuning

[LUTE] Re: Broken consort

2008-10-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
A few sources that come to mind include: 1. LS Booklet by Gill (1977)page 7: Praetorius small english cittern string stop c. 35cm tuned f" bflat' d" g" or f" a' d" g" Also same tuning for 'gittern' an octave lower as below: evidence of 'gittern' in Payford's 1652 publication as suggesting mid/

[LUTE] Re: Broken consort

2008-10-05 Thread Doc Rossi
On Oct 5, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: More recently the gittern tuning (with highest string on the first course at g') seems to have found favour Which tuning is this? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] composer Carlo Liguri?

2008-10-05 Thread David van Ooijen
Help needed from the collective wisdom. >From a private ms. I am to play music by Italian composer Carlo Liguri. Looks like 17th century music to me: vocal with continuo bass. No figures. The aria is called 'Arda Roma . The Grove does not come up with anwers to Liguri, but there is an aria 'Arda R

[LUTE] Re: Broken consort

2008-10-05 Thread David Tayler
My wife and I just played some renaissance flutes and recorders and they were close to 440, maybe a bit lower, whatever the keynote was. The instruments came in many sizes, so what was a D flute or a C flute or a small bass flute is an interesting question. All of the instruments sounded differe

[LUTE] Re: Broken consort

2008-10-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
If I remember right, we played the extant Morley works and reconstructions of a few Rosseter and Holmes Ms pieces. I thought I had explained the size of flute! I said we tried a bass transverse flute (John Cousen after rennaisance models) playing at written pitch and that it was pretty inaudib