[LUTE] Re: my first video

2009-01-29 Thread David van Ooijen
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:10 PM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: Sort of anyway. This morning's live radio was on internet as well: http://wm1.avro.jet-stream.nl/avro/web/klassiek/090125_spiegelzaal.wmv In the first 15 minutes of chat show you can hear (and see!) me Many

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
=== 29-01-2009 01:14:46 === I only mention the Monteclair because it is so readily available, and explains the key points. I think that for most of the basic things, that is fine. It is translated into English, and so on. Experts will always prefer the primary sources--mainly the music

[LUTE] Re: Fourier measurements of lute sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 29 janv. 09 à 01:17, Herbert Ward a écrit : The width of the central peak ... increases as the interval decreases, but I could not come up with any simple mechanism that would shift the maximum of the curve noticeably. I verified this experimentally. In other words, determining

[LUTE] Re: Fourier measurements of lute sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 29 janv. 09 à 11:09, Anthony Hind a écrit : Le 29 janv. 09 à 01:17, Herbert Ward a écrit : The width of the central peak ... increases as the interval decreases, but I could not come up with any simple mechanism that would shift the maximum of the curve noticeably. I verified this

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread David Tayler
Dear Jean-Marie, Thanks for you detailed response. I would be happy to refute your points one by one, but my main point--in fact my only point, really-- that everyone is playing the ornament backwards, is the one you don't discuss. I'm sorry about the spelling of Broderie, although it is

[LUTE] Re: my first video

2009-01-29 Thread David Tayler
Technically, you needed a sign at the entrance. Which I'm sure you had, I saw it! dt At 01:05 AM 1/29/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:10 PM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: Sort of anyway. This morning's live radio was on internet as well:

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread Anthony Hind
The variant border vs brouder, is exactly of the same sort as that of French fromage vs fourmage (from M.L. formaticum, from L. forma shape, form, mold), originally formage (something that is shaped) giving also the regional variant Fourme. In other words it is an easilly explainable

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear David, Thank you for your reply. I didn't mean to get controversial and I understand your point very well. Moreover, being a lefty - including for lute playing - I know what you mean when you speak of backwards movements, but I am quite sure my memoryworks both ways ;-). Lewis Carroll is

[LUTE] Re: my first video

2009-01-29 Thread David van Ooijen
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:40 PM, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Technically, you needed a sign at the entrance. Which I'm sure you For this gig I had to show up with my passport some weeks in advance, on the day of the concert arrive _very_ early, show a personal pass with digital

[LUTE] Re: Fourier measurements of lute sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Peter Nightingale
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Herbert Ward wrote: The width of the central peak ... increases as the interval decreases, but I could not come up with any simple mechanism that would shift the maximum of the curve noticeably. I verified this experimentally. In other words, determining frequencies

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread Jerzy Zak
Dear David and All, Strange discussion or rather no dscussion... It's good point about today preference for a short appogiatura among lutenists playing baroque music. Very often it sounds as if a luteplayer were playing those small notes in Giuliani or Carulli ;-)) I don't know if it's

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
There is no argument concerning the duration of an appogiatura, I suppose. One half with even value, at least two thirds with odd value. My question, however, was if there should be an appogiatura at all. There is that opening measure e. g. of Bocquet's allemande #7 (Vm7 6214 fol. 5) .2 31

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread Jerzy Zak
Mathias, As you asked David, I'll refrain from answering that particular questio. But something not so far removed comes to my mind. Some of you may know the famous French work by Jean-Féry Rebel, namely Les elemens and its first part, Le Cahos. Here you can clik and listen to the first

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread howard posner
Rebel's Cahos is not really to the point, since it is a depiction of primordial Chaos. Mathias was questioning a dissonance that was presumably intended for the composer's well-ordered French universe. On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Jerzy Zak wrote: Some of you may know the famous French

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread Jerzy Zak
An answer to Mathias question is still to come -- I said that. But the well-ordered French universe, as well as any other European baroque music universe is permanently beeing 'devastated' -- isn't it? -- by all the expected or unexpected appogiaturas creating 4ths, 7ths or 9ths. It's

[LUTE] Lawes Fantasye

2009-01-29 Thread Arthur Ness
A year or so ago, I scored one of the Lawes Harp Consort Fantasyes for Roland Hayes, and posted the score to my web site. http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/wm_lawes.html Erich Crouch has made an arrangement for three guitars, which might serve for performance as a lute trio. See