[LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets...

2009-03-16 Thread damian dlugolecki
"Using the thinnest frets that you can get away with" is a basic premise for fretting, but there are many lutes where the neck has set (but hopefully not twisted) where heavy frets are called for. My baroque lute represents just such an instance where everything is fine except that much thicke

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
Walter's son Kristian is a lutenist too. He lives in Hennef (or Eitorf?) near Bonn. Maybe some lutenetter in that vicinity could interview KG about his father's instruments? Gernot? RT - Original Message - From: "Lex van Sante" To: "lute mailing list list" Sent: Monday, March 16,

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Lex van Sante
Hi all, I have not said anything about the man Just that he had this portrait. Furthermore I never stated that he was Nazi or NSDAP-member or anything like that. I've already said that Gusta stated Mr. Gerwig to be a very musical man. She went there because she wanted to learn something, An

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
"Roman Turovsky" schrieb: > Gerwig's wiki article says he was NOT a NSDAP member. There was a handful of people who happened not to join the party. The majority of inhabitants of the Netherlands, or of Switzerland, or of Great Britain, to name a few, were NOT party members (some were, though). Wh

[LUTE] Re: two tanslation questions

2009-03-16 Thread David Tayler
There are scattered references to Bacchis and Niko, Niko being a temptress or even sorceress. The citation most on point is from the idylls of Theokritos--and the reason I think this may be the reference is that the Idylls tie in to the Arcadian affect. There is also the spell or "iunx" from whi

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
Gerwig's wiki article says he was NOT a NSDAP member. RT - Original Message - From: ""Mathias Rösel"" To: "lute mailing list list" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:00 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings "Lex van Sante" schrieb: Hi, I know that Gusta Goldschmidt had le

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
"Lex van Sante" schrieb: > Hi, > > I know that Gusta Goldschmidt had lessons from him . She found him to > be a very musical man but the story goes she was abhorred to find a > portrait of Hitler hanging on the wall of his study. Yeah, and someone still got her bike over there, or so the sto

[LUTE] Re: two tanslation questions

2009-03-16 Thread David Tayler
Tee hee hee is just the laugh Auden gives Nico, but I never tracked down the reference so perhaps it is Niso Oh happy trying! dt At 04:58 AM 3/16/2009, you wrote: >To the collected wisdom. I'm translating some lute songs and came up >with two minor questions. > > From 'Sweet Kate' by Robert Jone

[LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets...

2009-03-16 Thread Daniel Winheld
Dana- this seems like excellent advice & cautions in regard to nylon frets. In line with that, I would also advise noting what the neck and fingerboard are made of- ebony fingerboard with ebony veneered neck would seem to be best; in any case the hardest, toughest woods possible would be in ord

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pinel?

2009-03-16 Thread chriswilke
Its difficult to program Pinel. His music is almost entirely in the Big Three dance forms: courante, allemande and sarabande. Someone like Pinel might have six allemandes in F major. If you think three of them are really excellent, what do you record? Can one really make an interesting set

[LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets...

2009-03-16 Thread demery
Nylon can be made to work, but it even more of a pain in the proverbial than gut. It is stronger than most neck woods and will leave an indentation; some like that, it marks where the fret goes. Others dislike it for the same reason, get it wrong and you are stuck. The knots are prickly, and bur

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pinel?

2009-03-16 Thread jslute
David Ledbetter in his book on French lute and harpsichord music seems to hold Pinel in high esteem. Some Pinel pieces were reworked for harpsichord, so presumably his keyboard peers valued his works as well. The pieces don't appear overly difficult, although I've only looked at a f

[LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets...

2009-03-16 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
This seems like sound advice, Alexander. However, in general, I would advise against nylon as a fret material. It is rather hard, and may last forever if you can get its inherent stretchiness to the point it does not slip, but its hardness can also easily mar the neck at the knots. Eugene > ---

[LUTE] Re: Hi guys, nylon frets...

2009-03-16 Thread alexander
The only way to get them tight down to the fingerboard - tie them hot. Sometimes right out of boiling water might work. Tie them above the needed spot (in the narrower part of the neck) and then move them to the place (carefully, not to damage the fingerboard edges). Your knot should include the

[LUTE] Re: two translation questions

2009-03-16 Thread Charles Browne
howard posner wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:58 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: 'Te hee hee' is a giggle (perhaps slightly suppressed if it happens where laughing is appropriate) Like ho ho ho/LOL/LOLFTOL, or is there more to it? Ho ho ho is a full-bodied laugh, or "belly laug

[LUTE] Hi guys, nylon frets...

2009-03-16 Thread Omer Katzir
Well, I'm trying to replace my frets, I took a bunch of strings from old guitar sets I had, b strings, they look closer to the gut frets I have now. Anyway, I can't seem to keep them tight after tieing it, any suggestions? Sent from my iPhone To get on or off this list see list inform

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thanks a lot Peter for sharing these recordings by someone who remains a major pioneer in the lute revival and sure deserves respect. He is responsible for my fist contact with lute sound and that was quite a few years ago...Thanks (?) to him, I gave up the guitar for the lute as soon as I could

[LUTE] Re: two tanslation questions

2009-03-16 Thread howard posner
On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:58 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: > 'Te hee hee' is a giggle (perhaps slightly suppressed if it happens where laughing is appropriate) > > Like ho ho ho/LOL/LOLFTOL, or is there more to it? Ho ho ho is a full-bodied laugh, or "belly laugh." Associated with large, jolly pe

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Nicely played and nicely transferred. Sincere thanks for sharing these recordings. Eugene > -Original Message- > From: Peter Jones [mailto:pjones...@toucansurf.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:02 PM > To: Lute Net > Subject: [LUTE] More Gerwig recordings for download > > By popula

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Van Lennep 13 c.

2009-03-16 Thread ml
Hi, a friend of mine without internet access sells his 13 c. Joel van Lennep baroque lute (bass rider, string length 67.5 cm). For details please contact me via email off list. Saludos, Manolo Laguillo To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lu

[LUTE] Re: two tanslation questions

2009-03-16 Thread Lex van Sante
Hello David, Niso was sometimes spelled Neso. She was a seanymph and islandgoddess. she was one of the 50 daughters out of Nereus and Doris. Maybe this helps. Cheers! Lex van Sante Op 16 mrt 2009, om 12:58 heeft David van Ooijen het volgende geschreven: To the collected wisdom. I'm translati

[LUTE] Re: two tanslation questions

2009-03-16 Thread Christopher Stetson
Hi David and all, To my understanding,"tee hee hee" is just one of the many ways one can denote laughter in script in English. It's more of a giggle than the belly laugh suggested by "Ho ho ho", and in the context of the song, as the text implies, a giggle at the same time mocking and flirtati

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Pinel?

2009-03-16 Thread theoj89294
Why are there so few recordings of works by Pinel? Are the works inferior, very difficult, inconvenient tunings? I'm not at all familiar with this composer. I notice that CNRS editions has a volume of Pinel's works. http://www.cnrseditions.fr/ trj -- To get on or off this list see list infor

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Lex van Sante
Hi, I know that Gusta Goldschmidt had lessons from him . She found him to be a very musical man but the story goes she was abhorred to find a portrait of Hitler hanging on the wall of his study. And the two didn't get along though possibly not because of the portrait. N.B. Of course the fac

[LUTE] two tanslation questions

2009-03-16 Thread David van Ooijen
To the collected wisdom. I'm translating some lute songs and came up with two minor questions. >From 'Sweet Kate' by Robert Jones (1609) 'Te hee hee' Like ho ho ho/LOL/LOLFTOL, or is there more to it? >From 'Every Bush' by Michael Cavendish (1598) Who is 'Niso'? Just a nymph, her name looks

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings [Scanned]

2009-03-16 Thread Lex van Sante
Yep! Cheers! Lex van Sante Op 16 mrt 2009, om 12:39 heeft Narada het volgende geschreven: ERZLAUTE Isn't that German for Archlute? N -Original Message- From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:lu...@polyhymnion.org] Sent: 16 March 2009 10:50 To: lute mailing list list; Lex van Sante Subject: [

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Edward Martin
I know of someone who studied with him many years ago, and he is described as being a very harsh teacher, almost cruel. ed At 12:28 PM 3/16/2009 +0100, Lex van Sante wrote: >If you count the courses on his lute you will find that there are ten. >The models were invariably two-headed lutes with t

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings [Scanned]

2009-03-16 Thread Narada
ERZLAUTE Isn't that German for Archlute? N -Original Message- From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:lu...@polyhymnion.org] Sent: 16 March 2009 10:50 To: lute mailing list list; Lex van Sante Subject: [LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings That us not true. Thera are some recordings on which Ger

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Andrew Gibbs
And he was into house music. Respect. '...In courses and lectures he also gave suggestions for a sustained renewal of house music.' On 16 Mar 2009, at 11:20, Roman Turovsky wrote: > Here a photo of him with a Dutch-type: > http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Gerwig-Walter.htm > So the 10c myth co

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Peter Nightingale
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Lex van Sante wrote: > For Mac OSX users unrarx works fine. As does Stuffit Expander. (http://my.smithmicro.com/downloads/index.html; the expander is a free download.) Peter. > > http://www.unrarx.com > > cheers! > > Lex van Sante > > > Op 16 mrt 2009, om 08:44 heeft Spring

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Lex van Sante
If you count the courses on his lute you will find that there are ten. The models were invariably two-headed lutes with ten courses. Sometimes referred to as Erzlaute. He never played d-minor tuning. As he was also a great improvisor possibly he was afraid different tunings might upset his sou

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
Here a photo of him with a Dutch-type: http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Gerwig-Walter.htm So the 10c myth could be put to rest. RT That us not true. There are some recordings on which Gerwig is listed as using an ERZLAUTE, and there are photos of him with what looks like a 12 or 13course lute. R

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Lex van Sante
iTunes can import .flac files without problem. Anyway my version (8) can :) Just use the contextmenu and open with: then select iTunes. Cheers! Lex van Sante Op 16 mrt 2009, om 11:25 heeft Ed Durbrow het volgende geschreven: A big thanks to Peter for making these historic performances avai

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
That us not true. Thera are some recordings on which Gerwig is listed as using an ERZLAUTE, and there are photos of him with what looks like a 12 or 13course lute. RT From: "Lex van Sante" Gerwig used a 10 course lute in ren tuning for everything he did. It was made by a luthier called Hans Jo

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Ed Durbrow
A big thanks to Peter for making these historic performances available once more. On Mar 16, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Lex van Sante wrote: > For Mac OSX users unrarx works fine. > > http://www.unrarx.com A further tip to Mac users, Fluke will get them into iTunes. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan edurb...@se

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread David Tayler
I think I have a Jordan somewhere from 1959--the bowl looks alot like the lute in the Luther Museum. It is heavy :) dt At 12:57 AM 3/16/2009, you wrote: > Hi all! >Gerwig used a 10 course lute in ren tuning for everything he did. It >was made by a luthier called Hans Jordan from Markneukirchen G

[LUTE] Re: glueing back decoration

2009-03-16 Thread Anthony Hind
Thanks to every one who has advised, and my sympathy to Howard. Some of us seem to have bad luck with lutes, possibly because of local climatic reasons. Stephen has advized using hide glue, normal strength for gluing back the decoration so I will either take it back to him, or have it done loc

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Juan Fco. Prieto
Thanks a lot, Peter. Juan Fco. Prieto. 2009/3/15, Peter Jones <[1]pjones...@toucansurf.com>: By popular demand, here are some more Gerwig recordings, digitized from the vinyl by Nick Morgan. The Neusidler and da Parma recording (Archiv AP 13031): [2]http://www.med

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Lex van Sante
For Mac OSX users unrarx works fine. http://www.unrarx.com cheers! Lex van Sante Op 16 mrt 2009, om 08:44 heeft Spring, aus dem, Rainer het volgende geschreven: http://www.7-zip.org/ Best wishes, Rainer aus dem Spring IT & Business Solutions Division Tel.: +49 211-5296-355 Fax

[LUTE] Re: Download Gerwig Recordings

2009-03-16 Thread Lex van Sante
Hi all! Gerwig used a 10 course lute in ren tuning for everything he did. It was made by a luthier called Hans Jordan from Markneukirchen Germany. Bob Spencer and Michael Schaeffer also used lutes by him in their early days. Daniel Benko also plays a modified lute by this maker. They were rat

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
http://www.7-zip.org/ Best wishes, Rainer aus dem Spring IT & Business Solutions Division Tel.: +49 211-5296-355 Fax.: +49 211-5296-405 SMTP: rspringaus...@tee.toshiba.de -Original Message- From: Martyn Hodgson [mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009

[LUTE] Re: More Gerwig recordings for download

2009-03-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you Peter, Just one thing: I've clicked in WinRAR and it only seems free for a trial period, can you suggest a free (and secure) software which can be used to open these zip files? regards, Martyn --- On Sun, 15/3/09, Peter Jones wrote: From: Peter Jones