[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Narada, I've played at Oakwell Hall (both solo lute and with a band) a number of times in the past and can confirm it's a good venue for acoustics. However this was a number of years ago when local Arts funding was more generous and the management of places like Oakwell were a

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread howard posner
Sauvage Valéry wrote: > 'm not sure about what you said above, because halls at that time had > tapestry All of them? Without exception? How do we know this? > and people during banquet were making > much noise... so I believe the result of reverb would have been very > different... ;-))) I

[LUTE] Re: RIP Sofracob fretgut

2010-09-07 Thread Lex van Sante
I find the quality of the fretgut of Kuerschner quite acceptable. Have a look at http://www.kuerschner-saiten.de They have all the gauges. Op 8 sep 2010, om 00:55 heeft Sam Chapman het volgende geschreven: > Dear lutelist, > Sofracob used to make great fretgut: strong, consistant (I even used

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Sauvage Valéry
-Message d'origine- À : LuteNet list Objet : [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette > and the sound is very likely what you would have heard 15 feet from the lute (or what one of Marco's contemporaries would have heard him playing > from down the banquet table). I'm not sure about wha

[LUTE] Translate Italiano "pioverin"?

2010-09-07 Thread howard posner
"Small rain"? "Drizzle"? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread howard posner
On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Narada wrote: > Yes Howard, you are right, I didn't read the notes. That's what happens with a lot of lute players who get too attached to tablature. > It must be a very spectacular building to get sound > refelctions like that. I'm not sure how unusual it is that

[LUTE] RIP Sofracob fretgut

2010-09-07 Thread Sam Chapman
Dear lutelist, Sofracob used to make great fretgut: strong, consistant (I even used it as a string in several emergencies!), available in long lengths, and cheap. Now that it's no longer available, does anyone know a good alternative? I've tried Aquila but the gut was hopelessly soft

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Christopher Stetson
Yup, actually two photos. It's right there on the daybed in the Great Parlour. It looks like it would be a wonderful venue for a concert. Too bad I'm here in New England. Chris. >>> "Narada" 9/7/2010 5:53 PM >>> In fact if you go to 'Friends of Oakwell Hall ' there are some ve

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Narada
In fact if you go to 'Friends of Oakwell Hall ' there are some very good photo's, including one that has a Lute in it. Have a look. Neil -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of howard posner Sent: 07 September 2010 21:44 To: Lute

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Narada
Yes Howard, you are right, I didn't read the notes. However I have now, and I shall listen again. It must be a very spectacular building to get sound refelctions like that. As there are very few Lute Recitals given here in the north of England ( Yorkshire ) I don't have much appreciation of the '

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Alexei Nicolai
I also didn't like the sound at first hearing. I couldn't get past the "reverb". However, since then I have grown to love this recording. Now I can't get past the astonishing artistry. On a related note, early in the current release The American our hero goes to a small village in Italy. H

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's continuo figures

2010-09-07 Thread David Tayler
Yup. Why have both? II'll be playing the 11's on the top string, just in case :) d At 01:53 PM 9/7/2010, you wrote: >On 7 September 2010 22:21, wikla wrote: > > in my quick look around to Caccini's Nuove Musiche (1601) my eyes did not > > find any "4-3"'s or "4-#3"'s, but lots and lots "11-10"'s

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's continuo figures

2010-09-07 Thread Martin Shepherd
No answers - just a reminder that it's not a theorbo, Jim, it's a chitarrone, which at this period is probably not the same thing, though the crucial re-entrantness of the tuning of both (?) doesn't help us resolve the octave of the 4-3. Martin David van Ooijen wrote: Agreed. Which leaves u

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's continuo figures

2010-09-07 Thread David van Ooijen
On 7 September 2010 22:21, wikla wrote: > in my quick look around to Caccini's Nuove Musiche (1601) my eyes did not > find any "4-3"'s or "4-#3"'s, but lots and lots "11-10"'s. The first madrigal has both. But even if 11 10 is more prevalent in Le Nuove Musiche, the fact remains that in some edit

[LUTE] Re: Used Lute Page

2010-09-07 Thread howard posner
On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:51 PM, David Tayler wrote: > A Hasenfuss will sell, for sure. > I have to say, if one really wants to sell a big ticket lute, higher > an engineer for one hour and making a short recording would probably > be a good investment. > dt For you, it might be. But I'd also have

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler's Lamora, Benedictus, La Bernadina

2010-09-07 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 07/09/2010 19:52, David van Ooijen wrote: On 7 September 2010 20:33, David Tayler wrote: steps. You can also set the metronome low, and advance a click every few days, but this only really works in conjunction with streamlining the motion of the right hand. I have another take on this. St

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread howard posner
On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Narada wrote: > I recently purchased this CD. ..but didn't read Paul's insert notes? > The sound quality is awful, it is completely > washed out with 'Hall Reverb' The individual notes can hardly be seperated > in some of the faster passages. This recording needs rem

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's continuo figures

2010-09-07 Thread wikla
Dear David van O. and the List, in my quick look around to Caccini's Nuove Musiche (1601) my eyes did not find any "4-3"'s or "4-#3"'s, but lots and lots "11-10"'s. Perhaps tomorrow I'll do a thorough check, if anyone isn't quicker... ;-) Perhaps that could be a basis of taking those markings as

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Narada
I recently purchased this CD. The sound quality is awful, it is completely washed out with 'Hall Reverb' The individual notes can hardly be seperated in some of the faster passages. This recording needs remastering and the level of reverb reduced massively. If anything the reverb should only add a

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler's Lamora, Benedictus, La Bernadina

2010-09-07 Thread David van Ooijen
On 7 September 2010 21:55, David Tayler wrote: > >>This is like a poem. With typos. |-( David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.d

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler's Lamora, Benedictus, La Bernadina

2010-09-07 Thread David Tayler
>This is like a poem. >I have another take on this. Study slowly and precisely. Streamlining >the motion of both hands. In other words, know what the fingers do, >get rid of superfluous movements and work on muscle memory. Slowly, >don't speed up. Don't fall into the trap of studying your mis

[LUTE] Re: Used Lute Page

2010-09-07 Thread David Tayler
A Hasenfuss will sell, for sure. I have to say, if one really wants to sell a big ticket lute, higher an engineer for one hour and making a short recording would probably be a good investment. dt At 11:33 AM 9/7/2010, you wrote: >On Sep 6, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Graham Freeman wrote: > > > For those

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's continuo figures

2010-09-07 Thread David Tayler
I think if the figures were more prescriptive rather than suggestive, there would be greater similarity in the sources. But the sources differ widely in the realization. Even Caccini's own sources differ. One should not take a later source as definitive, and I recommend Carolyn Abbate's article

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler's Lamora, Benedictus, La Bernadina

2010-09-07 Thread David van Ooijen
On 7 September 2010 20:33, David Tayler wrote: > steps. You can also set the metronome low, and advance a click every > few days, but this only really works in conjunction with streamlining > the motion of the right hand. I have another take on this. Study slowly and precisely. Streamlining the

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's continuo figures

2010-09-07 Thread David van Ooijen
On 6 September 2010 22:06, wikla wrote: > I wouldn't be too worried of Caccini's numbers. I take the 4-#3's same as > the 11-#10's You're welcome to it, together with the rest of the theorbo playing world (that includes me, don't worry, no harm intended). But Caccini (in his first book anyway) w

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's continuo figures

2010-09-07 Thread David van Ooijen
On 6 September 2010 22:25, David Tayler wrote: > The "second" sharp is a retroactive sharp, unless, of course there is > a compelling need for chromaticism. Love the word: 'retroactive sharp.' Yes, I'd say so, from the looks of many, many instances. But a few ... When does the need for chromatism

[LUTE] Re: Used Lute Page

2010-09-07 Thread howard posner
On Sep 6, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Graham Freeman wrote: > For those of you with some experience selling lutes on Wayne's lute > page, I wonder if you might be able to provide some wisdom based on our > experience. How long have people typically had to wait before selling a > lute? I know this is a

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler's Lamora, Benedictus, La Bernadina

2010-09-07 Thread David Tayler
As a lute solo, I found La Morra challenging, but not at the top level of difficulty. There is a recording from 1994, but I can't seem to find it. Ha! Good riddance. I think it was mm 60, like everything else. Just play it without the ornaments until it is comfortable, then start to add the orna

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler's metronome

2010-09-07 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 07/09/2010 16:42, Martin Shepherd wrote: Sorry, chaps, the metronome brain was rather addled. This time, lute in hand, I'm suggesting (again, whole note beat, i.e. two beats per bar in my edition): La Bernardina 68 Benedictus 50 La Morra 52 It's easier to play to a half note beat of cour

[LUTE] Newsidler again

2010-09-07 Thread Martin Shepherd
It just occurred to me that anyone using my edition ("Renaissance Lute Music from German Sources", The Lute Society, 2000) might like to know that I have a list of errata which I can email to anyone who is interested. There are only a few mistakes, and none of them affect the pieces mentioned

[LUTE] Newsidler's metronome

2010-09-07 Thread Martin Shepherd
Sorry, chaps, the metronome brain was rather addled. This time, lute in hand, I'm suggesting (again, whole note beat, i.e. two beats per bar in my edition): La Bernardina 68 Benedictus 50 La Morra 52 It's easier to play to a half note beat of course (4 beats/bar), though the whole note beats

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler's Lamora, Benedictus, La Bernadina

2010-09-07 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi Stuart, I love Crawford's duet versions but they are perhaps a bit fast - though it's worth considering that in La Morra his divisions are based on Newsidler's version. Just a quick check with the metronome (so I may be a bit adrift): I suggest about 66 for La Morra, 66 for La Bernardina,