Again - I've forgotten the source (probably Eph Segerman), but I seem
to remember that lutes with a double chanterelle were usually strung in
unisons. I do know that Eph had a 7c lute made like this and strung
with catlines (his own manufacture - Northern Renaissance Instruments)
in
That's right, viols. They carried viols around in a sack? I remember
wondering that waay back when, too.
Orey & Norey: Personally I think should have plastic nose flutes and
recit their names while they play.
s
On Nov 19, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Garry Warber wrote:
Thoren has a harp, plus som
Rats... That's all... Just rats... Another one peed upon.
Garry
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From: Edward Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 5:40 PM
To: Garry Warber ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?
The depiction in the Caravaggio pain
Thoren has a harp, plus some viols, and perhaps Orey and Norey have
recorder/flutes? Ben a bit since I read it, but winter is a-comin' in...
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From: Sean Smith
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:23 PM
To: lute
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?
Caravaggio al frodo! Doesn't The Hobbit start out w/ a motley crew
(no um"laut"s) of dwarves having a party at Bilbo's house w/ lots of
lutes and things?
Looking at the Wiki article (thanks Ed!), one of the 3 versions of
this appears to be a 7c and the other two are 6c's --all doubled to
Mystery solved - Neither man nor woman, but hobbit:
[1]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTijRxDsyaGkEGqjRpoAOsMXJlfU
uB12mGMD6v6BPdZVNmmvHcpGyTZ4DcK1w
From: Garry Warber
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011, 20:45
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double 1st s
Could it be that it was an Italian thing? I seem to remember hearing
that many years ago but can't quote a source. Maybe something by Eph
Segerman in FoMRHIQ?
Bill
From: wikla
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011, 20:51
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double 1s
The depiction in the Caravaggio painting is indeed a boy.
Please see this Wiki article about the painting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lute_Player_%28Caravaggio%29
It is well foot-noted.
ed
At 02:45 PM 11/19/2011, Garry Warber wrote:
>My favorite painting of all time... To my surprise,
I've always assumed a boy. The face seems masculine to me, and the open
shirt/blouse would be inappropriate for a girl, no? Does any historical record
tell us?
On Nov 19, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Garry Warber wrote:
> My favorite painting of all time... To my surprise, I've heard the lute
> player
I have made a version of my Lute App which works on the iPhone for the
Android devices. It can be downloaded for free here:
[1]https://market.android.com/details?id=com.appmakr.app362241
The app allows you to follow the discussions on this mailing list as
well as the baroque lute lis
Arto-
Bill got it- that's the one.
http://www.hermitageshop.org/store/images/large/0003150A4_3_LRG.jpg
"Double firsts seem not to be popular these days, presumably because they are a
little difficult to play on (I speak from experience) and possibly also because
they imply a lower pitch th
[Eugene C. Braig IV] Do be mindful that all manner of things can cause
buzzing, from strings buzzing along lumpy frets to loose glue joints along
structural seams to damaged/loose braces etc. ad infinitum. Do get it
checked out, but stay open-minded regarding possible causes.
Best,
Eugene
Tha
Thanks to all for the most interesting answers!
I actually just ordered a 6 courser, model Venere (the original, the model,
was a 7 courser, I suppose?) from Lauri Niskanen, the guy who made my new
11 courser. And I ordered an option to double chanterelle - just one extra
peg, just 3 grooves and
There's no answer to that . . .
From: Garry Warber
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011, 20:45
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?
My favorite painting of all time... To my surprise, I've heard the
lute player referred to as a boy.
My favorite painting of all time... To my surprise, I've heard the lute
player referred to as a boy. Is that correct? I've always fancied "her" as
female... :-)
Garry
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From: William Samson
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:23 PM
To: wikla ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
And another (6c this time!) from Caravaggio
[1]http://www.hermitageshop.org/store/images/large/0003150A4_3_LRG.jpg
Bill
From: wikla
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011, 16:10
Subject: [LUTE] Double 1st string on 6 course lutes?
Dear collective wisdom,
Hi Arto,
If you'll settle for 7-course, here's a link to a Caravaggio Cupid with
a 7-course lute with 14 pegs:
[1]http://www.ownapainting.com/images/Caravaggio-Cupid.jpg
Bill
From: wikla
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011, 16:10
Subject: [LUTE]
Daniel,
Yes, and thank you. I just prefer the sound of the unisons, and when I go
to the top single it sounds thin! I know the reason, fancy ornamenting,
etc., but I can do that well enough for me on double courses.
The Poulton Method is for six-course, by the way... I'm not one of the
histo
Hi Arto,
This doesn't answer your question but I had a bass lute built w/ a
double chanterelle and found that it creates a slightly different
paradigm. We're so used to the single chanterelle "singing" that it
just becomes normal to our ears. The double, otoh, sounds like an
extension of
Hi Arto and All,
I suggest a trawl through the iconography, counting pegs as well as
strings. I have seen at least a couple of 6c lutes with double first -
sorry the references elude me for the moment. But it was very common to
have a double first in the late 16th/17th C, as evidenced by sur
Yes, Dowland and Robinson as well advocated double firsts. Even Thomas Mace, at
a time when the typical 11 course lute had a single 2nd as well as a single
first. But Arto was asking about the 6 course lute. Can't recall written
sources addressing this off the top of my head, but pretty sure I'v
Dear Anthony,
Thank you for your most thoughtful note. I am sorry it took me a
while to respond.
Thanks for the comments on the sound of my gut-strung lutes by
Dan. I have had the pleasure to be playing mostly gut strung lutes
for the past 15-20 years, and I have been a direct witness in the
Arto,
I seem to remember mention, perhaps in my Poultan method, that it was done
by Dowland and others sometimes... I plan to make myself a lute when I can,
and I plan on all-unisons including top course , so I must not have dreamed
it up, hopefully.
Garry
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From: w
http://www.torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/audio/353.mp3
http://www.torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/images/353.pdf
Enjoy.
Amitiés,
RT
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Dear collective wisdom,
is there any evidence of using double chanterelle on 6 course lutes?
(If memory serves, there is at least one liuto attiorbato stringed so.)
Arto
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Hi Garry,
Talking of "lip smacking good", there was stuff in Nelson's navy called
'portable soup' that was made by boiling a vat of soup until it
attained the consistency of thick hide glue, then letting it cool. It
was broken into slabs that could be re-constituted by the addition
I've even had a case of a frayed string -- just a tiny loose thread --
causing a minute buzz against an adjacent string.
Leonard
On 11/18/11 2:58 PM, "Eugene C. Braig IV" wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
>> Behalf Of M
Tobiah, here is Mimmo making a gut Ukele string,
http://banjomeetsworld.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/see-how-aquila-owners-m
ake-gut-strings/
unfortunately, now a slice of history?
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De : Tobiah
A : Anthony Hind
Next, they'll be banning leather shoes!
Probably not, since politicians wear leather shoes.
The thing to do is to train some politicians to play lutes.
AJP
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of
Garry Warber
Sent: Saturday, Novem
William,
Hey, welcome to the mindset in the states... We are not known as "yanks"
for nothing. :-) You are right, "loose lips sink ships", more or less. Of
course, there is that prions not being harmed by cooking thing. But as far
as I know, only one guy here thinks hide glue is "lip-smacki
hi,
I have uploaded a new lute duet for 2 equal lutes (Unisono)
-- Gabrieli, Andrea - Susanne un jour -
All Diminuitions are original by Gabrieli, but in some cases I filled some
accords and in the second lute some too long notes with "between-notes". I am
happy to show you this version of
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From: William Samson
To: Garry Warber
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011, 8:12
Subject: Re: [LUTE] gut string, etc.
>>Is hide glue now also banned in the EU?
SHHH I hope none of these Eurocrats is reading this list!!!
This'll give them the
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