[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-14 Thread Stephen Fryer
The earliest dompe that I know of is "My Lady Carey's Dompe," an English keyboard piece from around 1530 (longtime favourite of mine). Does anyone know of anything else? The Affect of these pieces (Dumps, spelled how you will, and Downs) is "melancholic," but the meaning of that word has chan

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-14 Thread Sean Smith
Thanks, all, for keeping this dialog going. It's a curious subject of music history and one that I feel lutenists (Elizabethan, anyway) need to explore. The formal evidence certainly points to a usage that conforms to Shakespeare's example and it points to a tradition that types and pie

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-14 Thread Anthony Hind
A phoentician’s musings : %    One point of view (even present in the OED) based on data in the literature, rather than the surviving music, has it that the music labelled as “dumps ” could be closely associated with the mood “down in the dumps ”, (the “dumps” OED, "a fit of melancholy an

[LUTE] Ballo SR 4

2012-02-14 Thread Roman Turovsky
Ballo Sarmatoruteno IV - http://torban.org/balli/images/BSR4.mp3 http://torban.org/balli/images/BSR4.pdf Enjoy. RT - Original Message - From: "Roman Turovsky" To: "lutenet" Cc: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 11:06 PM Subject: [LUTE] Cantio SR 83 http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenica

[LUTE] Chow Bente

2012-02-14 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Leonard and David, John Robinson explains the origin of Chow Bent in footnote 133 on page 24 of the Introduction to the Lute Society facsimile of Dd.2.11, for which Rainer aus dem Spring is thanked in the Acknowledgements on page 8. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- Fr

[LUTE] Re: imperfectly tune

2012-02-14 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi All, I assume by "forwarding" David means pushing the string towards the bridge with the stopping finger to flatten it (also possible to pull it in the other direction to sharpen it). I do both, sometimes - much easier with Nylgut and gut, where the finger contact with the string is quite g