This time a reply after watching the video (test question: What's the
colour of Steve's cat?).
What I saw was Steve playing written-out formulae in a baroque style,
cycling through many keys. What Chris referred to as 'don't be afraid
to copy' and 'learning many licks', or similar wo
There are some method books, just not for the lute. By far the most
relevant to your post would be "The Division-Viol, The Art of Playing Ex
tempore upon a Ground..." (CHELYS Minuritum Artificio Exornata, etc.) by
Christopher Simpson. Two edtions, 1659 & 1667. Chris gives you the
works, from so
The form of improvisation that I have found most helpful in my own development
is one that I have not otherwise seen addressed, which is improvising on larger
forms, which we might call extempore arrangement, or perhaps "the cocktail
pianist routine." In most of my recent chamber music concerts,
Excellent summation, Rob. While your examples make perfect sense to
me, I find that most people who manage to wrap their fingers around a
lute come from a point of view that takes comfort in a re-creative art,
stopping short of the total commitment it takes to go beyond making
beaut
Lots of interesting comments from a few contributors. There seem to be a number
of issues.
1. Original source material, for lute, baroque guitar, certainly, but other
instruments too. All that must be looked at and absorbed as best as possible.
2. Stylistic details - what we do for Weiss we sho
You've misread me again, Chris. I was genuine in saying I was happy for you to
promote your recording, especially as you do some improv. Relax. I'm very pro
what you do.
Rob
www.robmackillop.net
> On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:29, Christopher Wilke
> wrote:
>
> Wow, Rob, this doesn't seem like you.
Thank you Rob for both of these links. They look quite interesting. I have
looked at the All Things Baroque and am going through the class he sells and
look forward to going through the Ted Greene material as well.
Improvisation is my current edge to get through and this is very timely.
Regards
Da
Wow, Rob, this doesn't seem like you. Calling Danny dumb? Lobbing the "you're
just promoting your stuff" grenade at me? The bulk of my message discussed my
own experiences as improvisor in a jazz and baroque idioms. I don't believe it
was at all inappropriate to mention my recorded efforts in th
Seems like the original link is strongly related to Jazz. The person doing
the video is a jazz musician. The site it is sold on is dedicated to Jazz.
So, it is not unnatural to draw a link between the topic of baroque
improvisation and jazz improvisation. Steve Heberman has clearly done that.
Of co
I thought perhaps you were finally coming around in your views on
religion. Spreudian flip?
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 15:52:58 +0100
> To: davidvanooi...@gmail.com
> CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> From: robmackil...@gmail.com
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music
>
>
Thanks for this, Rob. From my perspective gained through reading the
sources (including Quantz, Rameau, CPE Bach), improvisation is not an
extra - it's required. This has everything to do with the difference
between the playing of a musician and the rote regurgitation of
informatio
"influenced by mass" - I meant jazz!
On 1 July 2015 at 15:51, Rob MacKillop <[1]robmackil...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Again, David, it's not about doing jazz or being influenced by mass.
Steve just happens to be a jazz player. But he is on "our" territory,
and getting amazing results b
Good topic!
It would be great to have a method for aspiring improvisers on baroque
music (any instrument, lute, guitar, theorbo...). I do have a method by
Pascale Boquet and Gerard Rebours (Fuzeau edition), however it seems
more of a collection of grounds and a few advices than a tru
Again, David, it's not about doing jazz or being influenced by mass.
Steve just happens to be a jazz player. But he is on "our" territory,
and getting amazing results by applying a few concepts and principles.
Forget jazz - this topic has nothing to do with it.
Rob
On 1 July 2015
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Chris,
I'm very happy to provide you the opportunity to promote your latest
disc, which is wonderful. More power to you.
However, my discussion is more about the concepts Steve uses, which are
not jazz, and how we should be studying them on a baroque lute. I'm not
sure from what y
Danny, that's just dumb.
Rob
On 1 July 2015 at 15:25, Daniel Shoskes <[1]kidneykut...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm not sure of the value, but I do know that Pat O'B would have some
comments on his left hand technique. "Pronate more" and "your 4th
finger is stuck in the land where no
I enjoy improvising continuo and I enjoy improvising jazz. But I find
when I mix these I tend to bring in style elements from one to the
other. That's not always appreciated. In Renaissance music I enjoy
improvising short solo pieces, nothing big, nothing serious but
something appr
I’m not sure of the value, but I do know that Pat O’B would have some comments
on his left hand technique. “Pronate more” and “your 4th finger is stuck in the
land where notes don’t live”!!
> On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote:
>
> I've long thought that there was something miss
Rob,
Thanks for being this up. I did my minor at Eastman in jazz guitar,
thinking it might also help me with improvising early music. The
results have been mixed.
I included some improvised sections on my latest baroque lute album.
The most extended stretches are in the varied re
Not to forget the great Ted Greene: [1]http://youtu.be/Zkuo2384ZN4
Rob
[2]www.robmackillop.net
On 1 Jul 2015, at 13:49, Rob MacKillop <[3]robmackil...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I've long thought that there was something missing from the way most
of
us learn to play baroque mu
I've long thought that there was something missing from the way most of
us learn to play baroque music, whether on lute or guitar. Some of us
have studied figured bass playing, it's something I particularly
enjoyed doing, though I haven't done any for years. But rarely do we
step bey
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