[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

I like Kapsberger and Piccinini, and Michelagnolo Galilei. Those pieces are ok to play, but most French stuff just doesn't sound right to me without the deeper register... Am 15.12.2017 um 02:28 schrieb G. C.: >Unfortunately, 7 courses don't take you very far. Even if you should only

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

>Unfortunately, 7 courses don't take you very far. Even if you should only have 7 courses, that is no reason, not to play music made for different tunings or more courses. You can always octavate bases, and most of the music happens on those 6 original ones anyway. G. -- To

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

Don't leave out Cipriano de Tore. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Ron Andrico Date: 12/14/17 12:31 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Tristan von Neumann , lutelist Net

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

>Unfortunately, 7 courses don't take you very far. Could you pls. elaborate? I'm not sure what you are saying with this. G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

This is one way to look at it, and these Lutists certainly were the Erik Saties of their time. "Musique d'ameublement" in rooms rich in reverb. I can see the appeal! Unfortunately, 7 courses don't take you very far. Am 14.12.2017 um 23:14 schrieb G. C.: Yes, of course this music is

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

Yes, of course this music is "formulaic and skinny". That's the whole point! To allow the 10 / 11 course to sing with its newly aquired bass register. To savour and bring out the emerging notion of "affekt". Its a reaction to the rich polyphony of the cinquecento. Meditative,

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

On 14/12/2017 19:32, Tristan von Neumann wrote: True, but compared to earlier styles, these seem kind of skinny, also oftentimes formulaic. Skinny and formulaic?? Have you been using Google translate again? To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

True, but compared to earlier styles, these seem kind of skinny, also oftentimes formulaic. (I love Froberger though, I used to play some of his fugues on my piano.) But this is surely different in different countries... in Germany at least colorful Venetian Style vocal and instrumental music

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

On 14/12/2017 18:31, Ron Andrico wrote: But seventeenth century music is indeed more extrovert and performance-oriented than the more subtle and introspective music of the sixteenth century. I believe this to be the thrust of the remarks J. Titelouze directed to Mersenne What

[LUTE] Re: Titelouze

Another interesting quote about the power of music, very similar to Pontus de Tyard, if not purely lifted from him : taken from Essay des Merveilles de Natures, 1622, p. 503. Can be seen there, from Gallica : https://tinyurl.com/y9cbqwqj Jean-Marie -- > Thanks to translators

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

The complaint is surely understandable... Coming from lush madrigals of the likes of Marenzio and earlier Monteverdi the music of the 1620s sure look like a monodic desert. Am 14.12.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier: Georges, Walsh Stuart did it before I could do anything ! The end

[LUTE] Titelouze

Thanks to translators ! Yes the second part is equally interesting and could fit to any century, alas. I just wonder what was the average listener in mid XVI century...and Titelouze was bringing an unusual piece of information. What about the Francesco's banquet audience ? Maybe

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

Georges, Walsh Stuart did it before I could do anything ! The end of the paragraph you quoted is worth reading too : "Secondement les esprits de ce temps sont préocupez de tant de vanité, d'ambition et d'avarice, que la musique ne trouve plus lieu pour s'i loger puissament, de sorte que pour

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

Am 14.12.2017 um 12:49 schrieb WALSH STUART: > Google translate is amazing: translations between many different > languages. And it's free...insofar as anything from google is free.. a > lure into a google-dominated world. It's not so amazing. It could be much better. Google translate runs

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

Luth, pouvoir de la musique et J. Titelouze. Le 2 mars 1622 Jehan Titelouze écrit au Père Mersenne à propos de la puissance de la musique des Anciens sur les passions : « …Il me souvient d'avoir veu en ma jeunesse tout le monde admirer et se ravir d'un homme qui

[LUTE] not about strings !

Luth, pouvoir de la musique et J. Titelouze. Le 2 mars 1622 Jehan Titelouze écrit au Père Mersenne à propos de la puissance de la musique des Anciens sur les passions : « …Il me souvient d'avoir veu en ma jeunesse tout le monde admirer et se ravir d'un homme qui touchoit le

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545

Dear Martin and Miles, There is another alternative: for theorbos with octave basses one could employ an octave disposition on the final fingered course (ie the sixth) - after all, this is how lutes were generally strung in this period. This would smooth the aural transition from