On Tuesday 08 August 2006 06:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear All:
Some organs may have been clumsy, but there is a playable organ in
Switzerland -- it's been recorded several times, including at least once by
E. Power Biggs -- from before 1400 and it does not appear clumsy at all.
Let's
Dear All:
Some organs may have been clumsy, but there is a playable organ in
Switzerland -- it's been recorded several times, including at least once by E.
Power
Biggs -- from before 1400 and it does not appear clumsy at all. Let's not sell
early craftsmen short!
Cheers,
Jim
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On Thu, Aug 3, 2006, Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
there were organs in England in the middle ages.
and elsewhere.
Organ tablature survives from mid 1400's. The few depictions of church
organ keyboards lead us to think they were clumsy to play, more to be
struck by fist than finger.
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From: Jorge Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute list
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Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Castiglione and the lute
Dear List:
In a previous post, David van Ooijen provided the passage
, 2006 9:32 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Castiglione and the lute
Dear List:
In a previous post, David van Ooijen provided the passage in Italian,
which
I paste below. He also provided us with a link to the following
Sono ancor armoniosi tutti gli instrumenti da tasti, perche hanno le
At 04:32 PM 8/3/2006, you wrote:
Dear List:
In a previous post, David van Ooijen provided the passage in Italian, which
I paste below. He also provided us with a link to the following
Sono ancor armoniosi tutti gli instrumenti da tasti, perche hanno le
consonanzie molto perfette e con
Dear all,
On the vexed question of frets, or freats as Hoby spells the word,
it appears that he has opted for implying fretted instruments. It seems
he spells it freates
It is interesting that the word (freate or) fret only appears in English
around 1500, origin unclear.
This list of the
there were organs in England in the middle ages.
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From: Doctor Oakroot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 2:43 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Castiglione and the lute
Were keyboards popular enough for that translation to have made
Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:there were organs in England in
the middle ages.
... there were portable, cabinet like organs in spain as well during the
middle ages but i forgot what they were called.
i haven't been able to find castiglione's quotation in italian
bill wrote:
... there were portable, cabinet like organs in spain as well during the
middle ages but i forgot what they were called.
Would it be the portative organ you're thinking of?
Regards,
Craig
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Dear List:
In a previous post, David van Ooijen provided the passage in Italian, which
I paste below. He also provided us with a link to the following
Sono ancor armoniosi tutti gli instrumenti da tasti, perche hanno le
consonanzie molto perfette e con facilit=E0 vi si possono far molte cose
thank you for that - i must have missed david's post.
i don't wish to set myself up as some sort of expert on the italian language
but the musicale dolcezza part of the quote could prove interesting as well.
i don't know in what sense castiglione used the word dolcezza - historically;
In Castiglione's Il Cortegiano (1528), there is a passage where he states
that suitable instruments for the courtier are:
all fretted instruments...because they produce perfect consonances...,
but I have also seen the passage translated as:
all keyed instruments...
Finally, there is a
Jorge
In Castiglione's Il Cortegiano (1528), there is a passage where he states
that suitable instruments for the courtier are:
all fretted instruments...because they produce perfect consonances...,
In my translation (Penguin Classics) the Count says that the perfect
courtier should be
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