[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-23 Thread Doc Rossi
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[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-23 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
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[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I don't think there is such thing as a John Johnson's version of Green Sleeves... ??? Probably you refer to the version in the Dd 3.18, Cambridge Unibversity Library, which is obviously a consort part, but can, of course, easily be adapted as a duet. But nothing in the manuscript points to that

[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-20 Thread adS
This piece is very problematic. But why do you think that it is obviously a consort part? Lyle Nordstrom has attributed many anonymous trebles to Johnson. Others have serious doubts ... Rainer adS Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: I don't think there is such thing as a John Johnson's version of

[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
True, I should have been more careful and said a treble part, but nonetheless, it has a lot in common with other pieces in this manuscript with, sometimes, the ascription for the consort and it is patent that this Holmes's source contains a lot of consort parts, for example the Reade's pieces,

[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Oh, I forgot the little lute duet in the Pickering Lute Book... It is not attributed to Johnson either and the date of this manuscript is around 1615, if I remember well. Jean-Marie === 20-01-2009 16:53:03 === A friend of mine is looking at different versions of Green Sleeves and

[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Oooops, correction : I meant the lute duet in the Folger Dowland ms (Ms 1610.1) f° 5 and not the Pickering... It's getting late here in France ! Time to get some sleep ;-) ! Jean-Marie === 20-01-2009 22:28:12 === Oh, I forgot the little lute duet in the Pickering Lute Book... It is

[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-20 Thread Anthony Hind
Of course there is the Cutting variation. It might predate Ballet, as Cutting seems to have died around 1596, but the ms Add 31392 LBL (presumably a copy) appears to be c. 1605. However, the same is probably true of version in the Ballet ms. It would presumably predate the ms date of