[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-28 Thread Christopher Stetson
. When they did convert, they converted throughout their production. Best, Eugene - Original Message - From: Christopher Stetson <[2]christophertstet...@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:44 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-28 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
] Re: Speaking of citterns To: David van Ooijen Cc: lute List >Exactly, David, and said in 5 words what I was > writing an article >about. > > > >But, to get even more wildly off-lute-topic, does > anyone know the >hi

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-28 Thread Christopher Stetson
Exactly, David, and said in 5 words what I was writing an article about. But, to get even more wildly off-lute-topic, does anyone know the history of the development of mass-produced fret wire of the modern type, with rounded top and T-shaped cross-section? I notice that it's

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-28 Thread David van Ooijen
> On May 27, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Sean Smith wrote: > >> Guitars in the early 20th century used metal frets and gut together, I >> presume. > > And in the 19th century. > And in the 21st. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl ***

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread Edward Mast
Well, I obviously was mistaken in my assumption that metal frets would wear down gut strings quickly. Too bad I didn't think to try gut strings on my metal fretted lute. On May 27, 2011, at 6:36 PM, howard posner wrote: > > On May 27, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Sean Smith wrote: > >> Guitars in the

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread howard posner
On May 27, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Sean Smith wrote: > Guitars in the early 20th century used metal frets and gut together, I > presume. And in the 19th century. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
ung in gut, usually with wound basses. Eugene > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Sean Smith > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 5:53 PM > To: lute > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns > >

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread Sean Smith
I don't know of any gut strung instruments (in the 16th century) with metal frets --probably for just the reason you state. Metal frets usually seemed to go hand-in-hand with scalloped frets, too. I had assumed that it decreases any sharp bend north of the fret to prevent wayward intonati

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 27/05/2011 22:41, Edward Mast wrote: I had a Hauser-model lute with metal frets. Worked fine with heavy gauge strings. But when I decided to try some lighter gauge lute strings (like what I'm not using on my more historical instrument), the metal frets wore through the windings of the wou

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread Edward Mast
I had a Hauser-model lute with metal frets. Worked fine with heavy gauge strings. But when I decided to try some lighter gauge lute strings (like what I'm not using on my more historical instrument), the metal frets wore through the windings of the wound strings within a week. I suspect they

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread Sean Smith
Andrew Hartig has set up an all-things-cittern site at: http://www.cittern.theaterofmusic.com/ have fun, Sean On May 27, 2011, at 2:14 PM, David Smith wrote: I understand that 16th century citterns had metal (wire?) frets built into the fingerboard rather than the tied-on frets used on lu