[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei // Contrapunto Secondo BM - Eri Jaane Na Doongi

2018-08-08 Thread Tristan von Neumann
And again, it can get even better. Improved alignment - these rhythms are complex... .and it's a long version! Fun Fact: This is a film song from the 1964 movie "Chitralekha", based on Raga Kamod. This would be like a newly composed ciacona with modern English lyrics for a movie (I think this

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and the elusive "BM"

2018-06-09 Thread howard posner
> On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > Lutists, please don't kill me Not even a little? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-04-02 Thread Ed Durbrow
Zak, can I borrow your left hand for my next project? Like the review said you make light of the technical challenges. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-02-02 Thread M Hall
Zac said " While most people in the wider classical music community think about this development as having been spearheaded by the keyboard instruments (J.S. Bachs The Well-Tempered Clavier collection greatly contributed to it), I wanted to emphasize that the lute and lutenists were

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-02-01 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Well, you are free to join in the scholarly discourse :-) Stephan Von: Dante Rosati [mailto:danteros...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 1. Februar 2016 16:18 An: Stephan Olbertz Cc: Lute Net Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute you mean

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-02-01 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Zak, Thankfully this is not about tuning. The Libro d’intavolatura is indeed fascinating and deserves greater interest. I have a question about your word “circulated”. I was under the impression that VG prepared the ms. for publication and it never proceeded further. Since it remained

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-02-01 Thread Alain
Sun, 31 Jan 2016 19:57:32 + > To: danteros...@gmail.com; r.turov...@gmail.com > CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute > > "Well-tempered" is a non-s

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-02-01 Thread dws
.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute Dear Omer, Thank you for your interest! In the US the CD will be released on 5 Feb., and it will be widely available (including Amazon): [1]http://www.amazon.com/Galilei-Well-tempered-Lute-Zak-Ozmo/dp/B017MZS JR

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-02-01 Thread Dante Rosati
sprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht- Von: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Christopher Wilke Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2016 20:58 An: Dante Rosati; Roman Turovsky Cc: Lute Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Vincenzo G

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Dante Rosati
i dont see anyone arguing against ET. the point is simple: the CD is called "the well tempered lute" (an obvious reference to the "well tempered clavier"), but, unlike Bach's cycle, which was actually meant to be played in a "well temperament" (which is not equal temperament), the

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Christopher Wilke
"Well-tempered" is a non-specific term. It's been applied to tuning systems proposed by a number of theorists including Werckmeister, Neidhardt, Kirnbertger, Valotti, etc. There is no scholarly consensus about which one of these - if any - Bach may have intended in "Das

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Roman Turovsky
Lute was an early vehicle of EQUAL temperament. and that is the scholarly consensus. RT On 1/30/2016 8:53 PM, Dante Rosati wrote: HI Zak - does the Galelei book talk about tuning? As you know, there were various methods of placing the frets back then, none of which were exactly

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Roman Turovsky
Early history One of the earliest discussions of equal temperament occurs in the writing of [1]Aristoxenus in the 4th century BC. [2]Vincenzo Galilei (father of [3]Galileo Galilei) was one of the first practical advocates of twelve-tone equal temperament. He composed a set of

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Omer Katzir
Jan 2016 20:53:12 -0500 > To: [4]z_o...@hotmail.com > CC: [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: [6]danteros...@gmail.com > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute > > HI Zak - does the Galelei book tal

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Dante Rosati
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_temperament On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Roman Turovsky <[2]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: Early history One of the earliest discussions of equal temperament occurs in the writing of [1]Aristoxenus in the 4th century

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Roman Turovsky
beh, dipende sul masochismo acustico individuale!))) RT On 1/31/2016 12:10 PM, Dante Rosati wrote: in which case calling it "well tempered" is particularly inappropriate. notice that the 18:17 fret placing method is only approximately equal. On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:11 PM,

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Dante Rosati
in which case calling it "well tempered" is particularly inappropriate. notice that the 18:17 fret placing method is only approximately equal. On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Roman Turovsky <[1]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: Early history One of the earliest discussions of equal

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Roman Turovsky
Exactly. Well said. RT On 1/31/2016 2:57 PM, Christopher Wilke wrote: "Well-tempered" is a non-specific term. It's been applied to tuning systems proposed by a number of theorists including Werckmeister, Neidhardt, Kirnbertger, Valotti, etc. There is no scholarly consensus

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Dante Rosati
"something like" equal temperament. If you look at fret placing instructions in Bermudo, etc, there is nothing that gives exact equal temperament. There is also the use of tastini to take into account. But yes, the convergence on equal temperament that became universal a few hundred

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Roman Turovsky
uffa Reminds me of an old armenian joke, about a guy who was selling a weird purple horse. Asked how come it is that way, he said: "It is mine, and I paint it whatever color I want." You may tune your axe whichever way pleases you, if the end-result justifies it. I'm certain

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-31 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute "Well-tempered" is a non-specific term. It's been applied to tuning systems proposed by a number of theorists including Werckmeister, Neidhardt, Kirnbertger, Valotti, etc. There is no scholarly consensus about

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei and The Well-Tempered Lute

2016-01-30 Thread Dante Rosati
HI Zak - does the Galelei book talk about tuning? As you know, there were various methods of placing the frets back then, none of which were exactly equal temperament. maybe the problem is calling it "the well tempered lute", since "well temperament" such as Bach used in his

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei

2007-04-16 Thread vance wood
Sometimes an + means an ornament like a hammer and pull off or small trill. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: [LUTE] Vincenzo Galilei Dear All: In looking at the manuscript of Vincenzo

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei

2007-04-16 Thread Sean Smith
Dear Jim, I don't have the book w/ me at work but I think they are hold signs. Usually they are placed in the first strain and you're expected to remember them on the (usually nearly identical) second strain. I think they show up in the places one would expect a note to be held.

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei

2007-02-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
MS collection compiled by Galilei intitled: 'Libro d'intavolatura di liuto,' dated 1584 on the flyleaf. Location: Biblioteca Nazionale Centrale di Firenze: Fondo Anteriori a Galileo 6. Modern facsimile edition published with forward (in Italian and English) by

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei

2007-02-05 Thread Andreas Schlegel
Could you please give more exact details on the mentioned facsimile edition? I can't find them. Isn't it a confusion with the printed Fronimo dialogo of 1584 (Vincentino Galilei)? Andreas Am 05.02.2007 um 09:18 schrieb Martyn Hodgson: MS collection compiled by Galilei intitled: 'Libro

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei

2007-02-05 Thread Bernhard Hofstoetter
Dear Andreas, Martyn must be referring to the facsimile of V. Galilei, Libro d’intavolatura di liuto nel quale si contengono i passemezzi, le romanesche, i saltarelli, et le gagliarde et altre cose ariose, ms. Gal. 6 (1584) della Biblioteca Nazionale di Firenze published by SPES in Florence.

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei

2007-02-05 Thread Howard Posner
Thanks to everyone for the avalanche of responses to my query. I now have what I need. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei

2007-02-05 Thread Arthur Ness
: Bernhard Hofstoetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andreas Schlegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:46 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei Dear Andreas, Martyn must be referring to the facsimile of V. Galilei, Libro d’intavolatura di liuto nel

[LUTE] Re: Vincenzo Galilei

2007-02-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
No it's not the same (Fromino is printed; this is a large MS - prhps representing G's attempt to compile a fine version of his complete lute works). I see I ommited to mention the facsimile publisher: SPES. M. Andreas Schlegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you please give more exact