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From: Sam Chapman <[1]manchap...@gmail.com>
Date: 2 December 2012 00:38
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone
to rot according to Mace?
To: Markus Lutz <[2]mar...@gmlutz.de>
About string holes:
Am 29.11.2012 16:10, schrieb R. Mattes:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:04:48 +0100, Markus Lutz wrote
Hi Shaun, Hi Martyn,
unfortunately I cannot say too much on this topic, at least for the
17th century.
[...]
Another important source, though late, on all topics of life is
Krünitz, Oeconomische Encycl
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:51:53 +0100, Andreas Schlegel wrote
> The lexicon, dated 1715, is available with this link:
> http://diglib.hab.de/wdb.php?dir=drucke/ae-12
>
> Andreas
Thanks for the link, what an entertaining read.
I love the food articles. So strings are _sometimes_ overspun with silver.
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:24:39 +1100, Shaun Ng wrote
> Well, wouldn't this mean that every time we see a painting of an
> instrument with strings, we would have to consider one more
> stringing option, instead of just gut or wound?
Yes, as long as we ignore all no-iconographic sources of informat
The lexicon, dated 1715, is available with this link:
http://diglib.hab.de/wdb.php?dir=drucke/ae-12
Andreas
Am 29.11.2012 um 23:39 schrieb Stephan Olbertz:
> How about Zedler?
> The 64 volumes were published between 1732 and 1754, vol. 33 describing
> interesting things on the topic of "saite"
Seems that there is just a little bit more evidence for wound string use in the
18th century than there is for their supposed invention in the 1660s.
Shaun Ng
On 30/11/2012, at 9:39, "Stephan Olbertz" wrote:
> How about Zedler?
> The 64 volumes were published between 1732 and 1754, vol. 33 de
Well, wouldn't this mean that every time we see a painting of an instrument
with strings, we would have to consider one more stringing option, instead of
just gut or wound? It says something quite important, that metal strings on
instruments existed. Now, in the light of this, interpretation of
How about Zedler?
The 64 volumes were published between 1732 and 1754, vol. 33 describing interesting
things on the topic of "saite", like the process of manufacturing, different
colours and materials. No loading, I'm afraid, but overspuns, though they seem to serve
as a kind of jewelery thread
"Kapsberger used a wire strung theorbo..."
Apples and oranges. Monofilament wire string technology, used in musical
instruments, goes way back- predating the Renaissance, maybe 13th
century (best I can remember off the top of my head). Nothing to do with
the idea of thin wire overwound on a gu
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:04:48 +0100, Markus Lutz wrote
> Hi Shaun, Hi Martyn,
> unfortunately I cannot say too much on this topic, at least for the
> 17th century.
>
> [...]
> Another important source, though late, on all topics of life is
> Krünitz, Oeconomische Encyclopädie. Probably it also d
Hi Shaun, Hi Martyn,
unfortunately I cannot say too much on this topic, at least for the 17th
century.
For sure wound strings had been available in the 18th century.
At least Frank Legl has found some accounts around 1750 in Munich, where
there are mentioned "halb umsponnene Saiten" (= half wo
y-minded 17th century.
All the best,
Bill
From: Shaun Ng
To: Martyn Hodgson
Cc: Lute Dmth
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 9:42
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to
rot according to Mace?
I'm sorry Martyn, the thread is very lo
t, in lieu of
extant string samples, we're not speaking of 100% certainties but of
'civil court'-like weight of evidence considerations.
regards,
Martyn
--- On Thu, 29/11/12, Shaun Ng wrote:
From: Shaun Ng
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings -
t; --- On Thu, 29/11/12, Shaun Ng wrote:
>
> From: Shaun Ng
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot
> according to Mace?
> To: "Martyn Hodgson"
> Cc: "Lute Dmth"
> Date: Thursday, 29 November, 2012, 9:34
>
> Dea
Dear Shaun,
With respect, I think I've already answered this - see below
regards
Martyn
--- On Thu, 29/11/12, Shaun Ng wrote:
From: Shaun Ng
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys
prone to rot according to Mace?
To: "Mart
as achieved by loading.
>
> But we've all been here before..
>
> regards
>
> Martyn
>
> From: Shaun Ng
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to
> rot according to Mace?
> To: "Ma
nser string was achieved by loading.
But we've all been here before..
regards
Martyn
From: Shaun Ng
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to
rot according to Mace?
To: "Martyn Hodgson"
Cc: "Lute Dmth&
: Shaun Ng
À : Martyn Hodgson
Cc : Lute Dmth
Envoyé le : Mercredi 28 novembre 2012 20h43
Objet : [LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot
according to Mace?
Dear Martyn,
Thanks for these sources. I don't think they were making it up, but I do find
the Pla
Dear Martyn,
Thanks for these sources. I don't think they were making it up, but I do find
the Playford source questionable, being an advertisement. I know this sounds
nitpicky, but all it says is 'silver wire' on string is the new invention. It
doesn't say what came before. Kapsberger used a w
m what was admired at the time'
since the weight of evidence does indicate much. And this is the
history of such research - incremental steps.
regards
Martyn
--- On Wed, 28/11/12, William Samson wrote:
From: William Samson
Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Lute
Dear Shaun,
When you write 'The better explanation for seemingly thin, coloured
strings on the basses of lutes...', what do you mean by
'better''?: - better in relation to the historical evidence (if so
precisely what)?; better for modern ears?; better for the cost?; better
did sound back then. I'd bet, though, that
it would sound quite 'eccentric' to our ears.
Bill
From: Martyn Hodgson
To: Lute builder Dmth
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 8:57
Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone
to rot acc
When you write 'The better explanation for seemingly thin, coloured
strings on the basses of lutes...', what do you mean by
'better''?: - better in relation to the historical evidence (if so
precisely what)?; better for modern ears?; better for the cost?; better
than currentl
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