Re: Facsimiles etc.

2003-12-05 Thread JDanlHill
A helpful resource in understanding public domain and copyright law (USA only) is Stanford University's Library site and can be found at http://fairuse.stanford.edu/ -jdh --

Re: Facsimiles etc.

2003-12-03 Thread Michael Thames
Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Facsimiles etc. Thank you, Mr. Reyerman. Whether the music itself is in the public domain or not, reproducing/distributing the work of others (in this case, Mr

Re: Facsimiles etc.

2003-12-03 Thread Roman Turovsky
The real challenge for publishers like MO is to be creative in the cover art, editing, and info. quality of paper etc.It's amazing how this Monkey can elevate the physical book itself, above the content. Not in MO's hands. He made the most execrable cover for MoscowWeissMs. RT

Re: Facsimiles etc.

2003-12-02 Thread JDanlHill
Thank you, Mr. Reyerman. Whether the music itself is in the public domain or not, reproducing/distributing the work of others (in this case, Mr. Reyerman's production and publication of a facsimile) without compensation or permission is disrespectful as well as unethical. Thanks to those

Re: performer edition, facsimiles (was usage rights, facsimiles etc...)

2003-12-01 Thread Jon Murphy
I think you will find that if you credit the source you won't have any legal difficulty, this might fall into the category of literary translations. I'm not sure how there can be a work holder if the piece is public domain. But if you also show the facsimile of the manuscript (I assume you won't

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-30 Thread Thomas Schall
Yes, I agree. But on the other hand we rely on publishers like Albert (Tree) and others taking the effort to publish for us. I wouldn't like to write to all possible libraries and ask them for copies (I did as I started and the results were - say interesting - Berlin for example didn't know they

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-30 Thread Denys Stephens
- Original Message - From: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Euge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 4:58 AM Subject: Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc... Euge, This leads me to the question

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-30 Thread Christopher Schaub
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 4:58 AM Subject: Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc... Euge, This leads me to the question of who has access to facsimiles. Certainly, If I walk in to a museum and ask to see Bach's original works I will most likley be turned away

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-30 Thread Michael Thames
: usage rights, facsimiles etc... Dear Michael, I don't think there is any kind of conspiracy to prevent those of us with an interest in original sources of music to obtain copies. I don't have a vast experience of this, but I have not failed so far to obtain either a microfilm or print

Another way of looking at .. usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-30 Thread Wayne Cripps
Hi Jason - How about looking at library fees as your contribution to keeping the music that you love alive? Libraries are facing tough times now. The people who work making microfilms aren't getting paid a lot of money, and the directors of the library are getting pressured to cut services

Re: Another way of looking at .. usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-30 Thread Michael Thames
with it. Michael Thames Luthier www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com Site design by Natalina Calia-Thames - Original Message - From: Wayne Cripps [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:58 AM Subject: Another way of looking at .. usage rights, facsimiles etc... Hi Jason

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Euge
Hello Chris et al., I recently discussed some of these same topics with a friend of mine who happens to be a copyright researcher in the Copyright Office of the US Library of Congress. At 05:58 AM 11/29/03 -0800, Christopher Schaub wrote: We both agreed that there probably aren't any copyright

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Michael Thames
Calia-Thames - Original Message - From: Euge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:29 AM Subject: Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc... Hello Chris et al., I recently discussed some of these same topics with a friend of mine who

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Euge
At 08:48 AM 11/29/03 -0600, Michael Thames wrote: What about a Facsimile from say a publisher, who simply photgraghed the original facsimile with no edits, just the photograph and sold it. Do they have any copyright protection, once it's sold and out of their hands? Michael Thames Nope. As I

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Christopher Schaub
This is correct. You'll notice in many facisimile editions there is no copyright notice for this very reason! I wonder how many facsimile publishers are getting the reproduction license rights from the libraries that hold the original. I question this because -- according to my faulty math --

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Michael Thames
PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc... This is correct. You'll notice in many facisimile editions there is no copyright notice for this very reason! I wonder how many facsimile publishers are getting the reproduction license rights from

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Howard Posner
Christopher Schaub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll notice in many facisimile editions there is no copyright notice for this very reason! In most jurisdictions, including the United States, there is no requirement of a copyright notice to secure copyright protection. This has been the case

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Christopher Schaub
, facsimiles etc... This is correct. You'll notice in many facisimile editions there is no copyright notice for this very reason! I wonder how many facsimile publishers are getting the reproduction license rights from the libraries that hold the original. I question this because

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Christopher Schaub
Good point, and I wasn't trying to suggest that you could go and just make copies and re-distribute them! I believe most publishers enhance their facsimiles and manuscripts with some clean up to protect them under the various copyright laws. In the past, I spoke with a publisher about this who did

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Euge
At 02:28 PM 11/29/03 -0800, Christopher Schaub wrote: You would have to check with Tree Editions to be sure. It's very possible that there are edits and formatting that you are unaware of -- many publishers clean up the facsimiles and manuscripts before they publish them. Removing player's notes

Re: usage rights, facsimiles etc...

2003-11-29 Thread Euge
At 03:00 PM 11/29/03 -0800, Christopher Schaub wrote: Good point, and I wasn't trying to suggest that you could go and just make copies and re-distribute them! I believe most publishers enhance their facsimiles and manuscripts with some clean up to protect them under the various copyright laws. In

Re: performer edition, facsimiles (was usage rights, facsimiles etc...)

2003-11-29 Thread Wayne Cripps
If I get a facsimile or manuscript of a public domain work, can I create a modern tab edition without licensing the rights (not copyright) from the work holder? I think there may be legal (as opposed to civil) restrictions on manuscripts, especially those that have not beem published.

RE: performer edition, facsimiles (was usage rights, facsimiles etc...)

2003-11-29 Thread Candace Magner
Wayne said: A library can make you sign a contract that restricts you from publishing the material or making the material available to others when you request access to it. You would then be liable for breach of contract if you violated the agreement that you signed. Chris asked, :can I create a

Re: performer edition, facsimiles (was usage rights, facsimiles etc...)

2003-11-29 Thread Edward Martin
Dear Chris, I agree, in that Fuenllana is fantastic music. However there already is a modern performing edition of this work, done by Miles Dempster, in Montreal. The book is, Miguel Fuenllana - Orphenica Lyra - The fantasias tientos, and other works set in French tablature for lute or

Re: performer edition, facsimiles (was usage rights, facsimiles etc...)

2003-11-29 Thread Bruno
Hi guys, Just to let you know, in case Miles doesn't read his emails, ... Miles moved out in the country this past summer, he is no longer in=20 Montreal, but in Marbleton, near Sherbrooke city in eastern Quebec. His new address is: 615 rue des =E9rables Marbleton, Quebec J0B 2L0 tel: 819