Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Thames
: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute list" Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:44 AM Subject: Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute > > Many later baroque lutes have two buttons: one at the base and one > >on the back close to the neck.I

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-06 Thread Ed Durbrow
>--- Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes. Horribly unstable, but good for a 'spin' a la >> ZZ Top. :-) > >video, please ... Wait. I have to grow this beard a bit more. :-) -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list informatio

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-06 Thread bill kilpatrick
--- Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. Horribly unstable, but good for a 'spin' a la > ZZ Top. :-) video, please ... "and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly..." - Don Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), "Historias de la Conquista del Mayab" by Fra Joseph of S

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-06 Thread Ed Durbrow
> Many later baroque lutes have two buttons: one at the base and one >on the back close to the neck.I've tried this method and have >not been happy with the results - has anybosy else? Yes. Horribly unstable, but good for a 'spin' a la ZZ Top. :-) -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.p

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-05 Thread Doctor Oakroot
On second (or is it third?) thought, the sound board is hold the tension of the strings which is much more than the weight of the oud. I think it could take it. (The roses may be a different issue). > boo ... hisss ... > > the soundboard is much too fragile and it would damage > the roses. > > - b

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-05 Thread Doctor Oakroot
Oh, didn't think about that. The sound board on my oud could take it just fine, and it doesn't have any roses. (It's a really cheap oud - got it in a pawn shop for $40). Might depend on the weight of the instrument too - mine is really light, but an Egyptian one might be too heavy for that. > boo

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-05 Thread bill kilpatrick
boo ... hisss ... the soundboard is much too fragile and it would damage the roses. - bill --- Doctor Oakroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does your oud have three sound holes (usual for > ouds)? You could run the > thong in one of the side holes and out the other. > Avoids interference with >

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-05 Thread Doctor Oakroot
Does your oud have three sound holes (usual for ouds)? You could run the thong in one of the side holes and out the other. Avoids interference with the strings and the oud couldn't slip out of the harness. > because the group in which i play tends to walk around > while performing, i tried putting

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-05 Thread bill kilpatrick
because the group in which i play tends to walk around while performing, i tried putting a very simple harness on my oud made from leather thong boot laces. i was warned against it, saying i'll be sorry when i drop the oud ... ahh ... but i was so much older then .. i passed one leather thong d

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
Moose leather pants were a part of cavalry uniform until the Crimean war. No lutenistic use, I suspect. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > I wonder about the materials used in 16-18th cent. clothing, especially pants > and shirts. I know that wearing leather pants wou

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-05 Thread Christopher Schaub
I wonder about the materials used in 16-18th cent. clothing, especially pants and shirts. I know that wearing leather pants would make holding the lute much easier while sitting. It would be stylish at a minimum. --- Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Before inventing new ways of hold

How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Before inventing new ways of holding an instrument, it's useful to look at what early players actually did. For the lute the following come to mind: - Iconography depicting extended peghead lutes (ie theorboes, archlutes, late german baroque lutes) frequently shows the use of a ribbon/stra