Lutesong in A?

2004-03-15 Thread lutesmith
I'm working on To plead my faith by Daniel Bathelar from The Musical Banquet with a singer and a gambist and am wondering about the intended tunings of the instruments. The cantus line gives one flat and starts on a D; the lute part starts on a Cminor chord w/ the singer's first note given as

Lutesong in A?

2004-03-15 Thread Stewart McCoy
ginal Message - From: "lutesmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:12 PM Subject: Lutesong in A? > > I'm working on To plead my faith by Daniel Bathelar from The Musical > Banquet with a singer and a gambist and am wo

Lutesong in A?

2004-03-17 Thread Stewart McCoy
fa inasmuch as it doesn't specify pitch. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jon Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stewart McCoy"

Lutesong in A?

2004-03-18 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Roman, Yes, it was. Thanks for passing it on. Stewart. - Original Message - From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LUTE-LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:32 PM Subject: Re: Lutesong in A? >

Lutesong in A?

2004-03-19 Thread Stewart McCoy
t. - Original Message - From: "Jon Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 3:34 AM Subject: Re: Lutesong in A? > Stewart, > > I didn't mean

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-15 Thread lutesmith
in g' >for "To plead my faith". > >All the best, > >Stewart. > > > > >- Original Message - >From: "lutesmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:12 PM >Subject: Lutesong

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-16 Thread Jon Murphy
TED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:57 PM Subject: Lutesong in A? > Dear Sean, > > The lute is most definitely in g' (not in a'), which concurs with > the pitch of the bass part. The song is in C minor. The voice part > is w

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
> Dear Stewart. > > Perfect! And logical. As one who has read music for voice for almost sixty > years I would love it if all voice parts were written in C (or the related > modes). The few with "perfect pitch" would have a problem, but the rest of > us look at the intervals, whatever the starting

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
the > song from _A Musicall Banquet_, which started this thread). > Tablature is just the same as tonic sol-fa inasmuch as it doesn't > specify pitch. > > Best wishes, > > Stewart McCoy. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Roman Turovsky"

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
gt; From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lute Net" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: Lutesong in A? > > >> Somehow I just don't see this to be helpful in any music that > modulated, or >> has a few accidentals even... >> RT > >

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-17 Thread Jon Murphy
rom: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: Lutesong in A? Dear Jon and Roman, We may not all have perfect pitch, but we can still be aware of pitch. Try playing Beethoven's Moonlig

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> years I would love it if all voice parts were >> written in C (or the related >>> modes). The few with "perfect pitch" would have a >> problem, but the rest of >>> us look at the intervals, whatever the starting >> pitch. >> I don't think composers would appreciate that. >> RT > They wouldn't h

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-18 Thread chriswilke
--- Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Stewart. > > > > Perfect! And logical. As one who has read music > for voice for almost sixty > > years I would love it if all voice parts were > written in C (or the related > > modes). The few with "perfect pitch" would have a > problem, bu

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-18 Thread chriswilke
--- Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> years I would love it if all voice parts were > >> written in C (or the related > >>> modes). The few with "perfect pitch" would have > a > >> problem, but the rest of > >>> us look at the intervals, whatever the starting > >> pitch. > >> I don't

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-19 Thread Jon Murphy
Oh my Stewart, You've done it again. You have informed me. > The syllable Ti or Te for the 7th degree of the scale was originally > "Si" standing for Sancte Iohannes (Saint John). I posted the first words of Ut queant laxis as the origin of ut (do) - re - mi, and mentioned that there was a seven

Re: Lutesong in A?

2004-03-20 Thread "Mathias Rösel"
"Jon Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > The old hexachord system was based on three overlapping 6-note > > scales or hexachords. > > Here I disagree, the hexachord system I know of is more extensive. The first > three overlapping 6 note scales overlap the "ut" at the "fa" of the > previous.

Hexachord System (olim Lutesong in A?)

2004-03-20 Thread Stewart McCoy
lute-players. With music written in tablature, we don't have to worry about such ambiguities. Best wishes, Stewart. - Original Message - From: "Jon Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Hexachord System (olim Lutesong in A?)

2004-03-22 Thread Jon Murphy
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: Hexachord System (olim Lutesong in A?) > Dear Jon, > > We're saying the same thing in different ways. You refer to the > seven hexachords which are normally shown to make up the hexachord > system. I refe