RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-16 Thread Ed Durbrow
> At 02:40 PM 12/10/2003 +0100, "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" > wrote: >How would you write 3 versus 5 in >tablature? > >I couldn't resist :) Just an idea, but how about different colored inks? -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/

RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-13 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
At 02:40 PM 12/10/2003 +0100, "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" wrote: >How would you write 3 versus 5 in tablature? > >I couldn't resist :) >MOphee>>Excellent point, which tells why there is no liklihood of modern composers using tablature. RadS>>Of course, it is almost impossible to play 3 versus

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Durbrow
At 7:43 PM + 03/12/10, Stewart McCoy wrote: >Matanya Ophee has argued that reading from tablature is like playing >by rote. I wouldn't quite put it that way, because playing from >staff notation can be much the same, if you are on auto-pilot. What >I think he means (please correct me if I'm wro

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-11 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 11:08 AM 12/11/2003 +, Stewart McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear Matanya, > >Yes, I do seem to be contradicting myself, so perhaps I may >elaborate a little. I think a lot depends on how much experience one >has with any particular notation. For a complete beginner tablature No argume

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-11 Thread Paolo Declich
> Dear Matanya, > > Yes, I do seem to be contradicting myself, so perhaps I may > elaborate a little. I think a lot depends on how much experience one > has with any particular notation. For a complete beginner tablature > will be easier to read, because it by-passes the concept of pitch > and go

Re: Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-11 Thread corun
Stewart wrote: > [BIG SNIP] > As you know from previous messages, I believe lute players should be > familiar with both staff notation and tablature. The question is, > which > should a beginner learn first? That's the $64,000 question. :-) Stewart, as usual you make some very good points. I ag

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-11 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Matanya, Yes, I do seem to be contradicting myself, so perhaps I may elaborate a little. I think a lot depends on how much experience one has with any particular notation. For a complete beginner tablature will be easier to read, because it by-passes the concept of pitch and goes straight to

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 04:55 PM 12/10/2003 -0600, Herbert Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Matanya Ophee wrote: > > ... Tablature, you said, removes one of these actions and goes directly > > to the fingerboard. If this is true, then it follows that the only time > > the lutenist gets to hear th

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Herbert Ward
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Matanya Ophee wrote: > ... Tablature, you said, removes one of these actions and goes directly > to the fingerboard. If this is true, then it follows that the only time > the lutenist gets to hear the pitch, is _after_ the action has been > taken As I read it, you're confusi

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 07:43 PM 12/10/2003 +, Stewart McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Matanya Ophee has argued that reading from tablature is like playing >by rote. I wouldn't quite put it that way, because playing from >staff notation can be much the same, if you are on auto-pilot. What >I think he means (ple

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Stewart McCoy
TED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy) > > The example does not show an advantage of tab over staff notation... you > could just as easily write the bar in staff

RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy) (fwd)

2003-12-10 Thread Doctor Oakroot
Thanks for the plug Wayne. Don't think there's any 3 on 5 in that one. (And lute folks probably won't like it anyway). Wayne Cripps wrote: >> From: "Doctor Oakroot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart

RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy) (fwd)

2003-12-10 Thread Wayne Cripps
> From: "Doctor Oakroot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy) > > Spring, aus dem, Rainer wrote: > > Of course, it is almost impossible to play 3 versus 5 on a lute or guitar. > > > Says who? I do i

RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 02:40 PM 12/10/2003 +0100, "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How would you write 3 versus 5 in tablature? > >I couldn't resist :) Excellent point, which tells why there is no liklihood of modern composers using tablature. >Of course, it is almost impossible to play 3 vers

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Doctor Oakroot
The example does not show an advantage of tab over staff notation... you could just as easily write the bar in staff notation as 4 quarter notes (expecting the player to figure out which notes to hold), with no less simplicity nor less accuracy than the tab. In fact, such simplifications are commo

RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Doctor Oakroot
Spring, aus dem, Rainer wrote: > Of course, it is almost impossible to play 3 versus 5 on a lute or guitar. > Says who? I do it all the time. :) -- Rough-edged songs from a dark place in the soul: http://DoctorOakroot.com

RE: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
ECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2003 13:00 > To: Lute Net > Subject: Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy) > > > Dear Tom, > > Here's a simple example. (You will need a m

Re: Tabs, Staff and the rest of it. (for Stewart McCoy)

2003-12-10 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Tom, Here's a simple example. (You will need a monospaced font like Courier to get the vertical alignment correct.) The inner part has a bit of syncopation: |\ |\|\ | |\ | |\ | | | || ___ __|_||_ __c__d_c__|_d___||_ _