Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-03-01 Thread Benjamin Narvey
Dear Gary, I'm afraid I can't help you with the Laelius, but I may be able to help you with that Luther story. Have you checked the following? G. Rietschel, "Die Aufgabe der Orgel im Gottesdienste" (Leipzig, 1893) Brenet quotes this as a source detailing the use of lutes in place of organs in

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-03-01 Thread Gary Beckman
Greetings all, I can't but help to jump into this conversation since my dissertation topic addresses this exact issue. Though I'm still in the beginning stages of my research on the context of Protestant lute music performance, I can add that a small tidbit. Paul Nettle's book "Luther and Musi

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute /Melk

2005-02-27 Thread KennethBeLute
In a message dated 2/27/2005 12:50:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a chapel inside the Palace of Queluz, 5 km from Lisboa, with a sort of upper chamber with a beautiful baroque hole with a golden grid, as far as I remember . Musicians used to play upstairs and the r

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute /Melk

2005-02-27 Thread Donatella Galletti
must be like a big instrument itself . Of course, no photographs allowed, and no postcards of the place...maybe on the net.. Donatella http://web.tiscali.it/awebd - Original Message - From: "AJN (boston)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LUTE NET" Sent: Friday,

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-26 Thread AJN (boston)
I followed Gernot's advi ce and checked the Boston telephone directory and found one person, Eichorn (one H--but the other was a misspelling on my part). Anyway, Sciurus is Latin for squirrel. And I was wondering if our Johann Michael might have been named Eichhorn. Often German composers change

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-26 Thread AJN (boston)
162,751 DATE: 2/26/05 4:34 AM Re: Re: Sacred music for baroque lute <> I'll be playing in Melk in May. There's nothing about hidden rooms or bleeding in my contract, I'd better check! David To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
"Matthew Spring" schrieb: > Please send no further emails to Doctor Matthew Spring. Thanks. I'm sorry? -- Mathias -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-26 Thread LGS-Europe
> The magnificent mountainside Monastery at Melk maintained an orchestra in > the 18th cen. which played for visitors from a hidden room. (e.g., the > emperor stayed at Melk while travelling). (The sounds issued through a > circle-shaped window above the banquet hall. Otherwise secular music was >

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-25 Thread Arne Keller
At 17:45 25-02-2005 GMT, Mathias Rösel"zZWwi wrote: > "AJN (boston)" schrieb: >> places. As well as sacred music in secular places. Now about Johann >> Michael Sciurius aka? Eichörnchen? Is that a valid German family name? > >Eichhorn is. E. g. there are two brothers Ei

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-25 Thread Markus Lutz
AJN (boston) schrieb: >The lute books seem to have been for personal use, Pater (later Abbot) >Herman Kniebandl, for example. But there are sacred pieces in two of the >books from Gruessau (Mss 2009?? and 2011 now in Warsaw). I imagine the use >of secular music in the monasteries may have been "

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-25 Thread Mathias Rösel
"AJN (boston)" schrieb: > places. As well as sacred music in secular places. Now about Johann > Michael Sciurius aka? Eichörnchen? Is that a valid German family name? Eichhorn is. E. g. there are two brothers Eichhorn (Holger, Klaus), very active in early music affair

Re: Sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-25 Thread AJN (boston)
The lute books seem to have been for personal use, Pater (later Abbot) Herman Kniebandl, for example. But there are sacred pieces in two of the books from Gruessau (Mss 2009?? and 2011 now in Warsaw). I imagine the use of secular music in the monasteries may have been "local option." The magnifi

Re: sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
The collection of Gellert's geistliche Oden may not exactly be sacred music in the strict sense. But those two Sciurus mss. in Cracow (one contains more than 200, the othere merely 8 chorales) certainly are. There is another ms in Berlin called Geistliche Musik auf die Laute gesetzt von Herrn Decke

Re: sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
> Have you ever seen the Beyer print? I wouldn't call this sacred music - it's > simple songs with more or less funny/instructive lyrics (A while ago I > published "Der Blinde und der Lahme" on my page - maybe I should but it back > there). > > Anyway - as you mention - there is enough sacred mate

Re: sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-24 Thread Thomas Schall
schrieb Markus Lutz: > Hello Thomas, Alain, Ralf and others, > it seemed at the time for me to change the subject line ;-), as I nearly > had missed this interesting theme. Also I'm not sure if that theme > shouldn't be better settled on the baroque lute list ... > > I wouldn

sacred music for baroque lute

2005-02-24 Thread Markus Lutz
protestantic tradition of singing chorales to the lute. In Hungary there even were found some accompaignments for reformed psalms! In the Gruessau mss you find many sacred and even liturgical pieces (catholic). Also there is evidence that lute music by Pichler was used to compose a mass. So the