Hi Arto,
I remember the days before the Berlin Wall came down. I was living in Germany
at the time. From the Americans helping out in the Berlin blockade, onto the
Russian invasion of the then Czechoslovakia in 1968, the Solidarity movement
in Poland, and many, many more crises which directly a
You ask 'Is this all serious, or some kind of a joke?' It's all quite
serious. and how I feel. Why shouldn't someone admire America and the good it's
done?
I'm no politician, but reading the other messages on this subject, the others
don't seem to be either. Cheers
TB
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>
> Of course you and I could point to situations where America has acted
> badly,
> but then, who hasn't? I've never been to America, not have I any desire to
> go
> there. But I do know that, whatever failings the country may have, I owe
> my
> life to them, as do countless millions of other
> You ask 'Is this all serious, or some kind of a joke?' It's all quite
> serious. and how I feel. Why shouldn't someone admire America and the good
> it's done?
> I'm no politician, but reading the other messages on this subject, the
> others
> don't seem to be either. Cheers
Sorry, I just w
good.
Cheers,
Marion
Mezzosoprano
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Subject: VERY OFF TOPIC (POLITICS)
You ask 'Is this all serious, or some kind of a joke?' It's all quite
serious. and how I feel. Why shouldn'
Marion wrote:
>
>Freedom is not free and it is also not cheap.
"You can have peace and you can have freedom. Just don't count on having them
together." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Regards,
Craig
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I think Arto made the mistake to set the Bush administration equal to the USA.
I don't think there is much anti-americanismn in europe but Bush (and others
of his administration) would be regarded as a criminal by a very huge
percentage of people in europe.
The US never had a president like th
Craig Allen scripsit:
> Marion wrote:
>> Freedom is not free and it is also not cheap.
> "You can have peace and you can have freedom. Just don't count on having them
> together." -- Robert A. Heinlein
A recipe for Fascism.
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Thomas Schall scripsit:
> I think Arto made the mistake to set the Bush administration equal to the USA.
But we, as civilized lutenists, know: there is more to Finland than Arto.
RT
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Roman wrote:
>I wrote:
>
> > "You can have peace and you can have freedom. Just don't count on
> having them
> > together." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>
>A recipe for Fascism.
You appear to have missed the point. If you want to keep your freedom you
must be willing to fight for it, and that tends to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit:
> Roman wrote:
>
>> I wrote:
>>
>>> "You can have peace and you can have freedom. Just don't count on
>> having them
>>> together." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>>
>> A recipe for Fascism.
>
> You appear to have missed the point. If you want to keep your freedom you
> must
Roman wrote:
>
>I know what your intent is, but Bob Heinlein is not exactly a model of
>intellectual precision, obviously...
Obvious to you maybe. Are the conclusions wrong?
Craig
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Craig Allen scripsit:
> Roman wrote:
>> I know what your intent is, but Bob Heinlein is not exactly a model of
>> intellectual precision, obviously...
> Obvious to you maybe. Are the conclusions wrong?
> Craig
You might be helped by the original context, but the way the aphorism was
presented makes
> I know what your intent is, but Bob Heinlein is not exactly a model of
> intellectual precision, obviously...
> RT
Robert Heinlein.
What do you think about his premise in Starship Troopers?
(I'll need to reread the book again to be certain.)
That the right to vote is only given to those wh
The Other scripsit:
>> I know what your intent is, but Bob Heinlein is not exactly a model of
>> intellectual precision, obviously...
>> RT
>
> Robert Heinlein.
>
> What do you think about his premise in Starship Troopers?
> (I'll need to reread the book again to be certain.)
>
> That the r
Craig Allen scripsit:
> Roman wrote:
>> I know what your intent is, but Bob Heinlein is not exactly a model of
>> intellectual precision, obviously...
> Obvious to you maybe. Are the conclusions wrong?
> Craig
Unlike you, I had an 18 years experience of living in a police state. Beware
of what you
Roman wrote:
>
>You might be helped by the original context, but the way the aphorism was
>presented makes is sound like advocacy of a police state.
Actually you may be helped by the original context. I know what it is. For
context read Starship Troopers. Try to pay attention to the messages bein
Craig Allen scripsit:
> Roman wrote:
>>
>> You might be helped by the original context, but the way the aphorism was
>> presented makes is sound like advocacy of a police state.
>
> Actually you may be helped by the original context. I know what it is. For
> context read Starship Troopers. Try t
At 08:59 AM 5/6/2005, The Other wrote:
>Robert Heinlein.
>
>What do you think about his premise in Starship Troopers?
>(I'll need to reread the book again to be certain.)
>
>That the right to vote is only given to those who have served in the
>military.
I don't think anything at all about it.
Eugene C. Braig IV scripsit:
> At 08:59 AM 5/6/2005, The Other wrote:
>> Robert Heinlein.
>>
>> What do you think about his premise in Starship Troopers?
>> (I'll need to reread the book again to be certain.)
>>
>> That the right to vote is only given to those who have served in the
>> milit
At 10:21 AM 5/6/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>Is the Right to bear Lutes inalienable?
Without doubt!
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Eugene C. Braig IV scripsit:
> At 10:21 AM 5/6/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>> Is the Right to bear Lutes inalienable?
> Without doubt!
Make it audible in Washington.
RT
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At 10:34 AM 5/6/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Eugene C. Braig IV scripsit:
> > At 10:21 AM 5/6/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> >> Is the Right to bear Lutes inalienable?
> > Without doubt!
>Make it audible in Washington.
Oddly enough, part of my day job is to pound the pavement and be audible on
>>> At 10:21 AM 5/6/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Is the Right to bear Lutes inalienable?
>>> Without doubt!
Given that a theorbo could take a few lives in one sideways sweep: could it
be considered a Lute of Mass Destruction?
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--On Friday, May 06, 2005 10:52 AM -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:21 AM 5/6/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> Is the Right to bear Lutes inalienable?
Without doubt!
> Given that a theorbo could take a few lives in one sideways sweep: could
> it be considered a Lute of Mass Destruct
Dear lute gang,
please forgive me the following... I just try to clear reasons of not
understanding the world today. In a private mail I wrote to one of the
List members the following. And please, if you dislike politics and/or
moral, skip what follows!!!
Here comes the quote from a private mail
: Re: VERY OFF TOPIC: POLITICS
Thomas Schall scripsit:
> I think Arto made the mistake to set the Bush administration equal to the USA.
But we, as civilized lutenists, know: there is more to Finland than Arto.
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Whatever I think of this topic is irrelevant on this list. I get enough of
this type of banter from conversation, radio, print media, television,
etc. Unfortunately, I get precious little talk of lute kin from most
conversation, radio, print media, television, etc. I wish I could get some
lu
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