Re: passionate gut - double or single

2004-04-15 Thread bill
someone named chuckerbutty (don't ask) very kindly pointed this out to me: http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=727 On Giovedì, apr 15, 2004, at 01:47 Europe/Rome, James A Stimson wrote: Dear Luters: I know we've talked about single versus double frets. Is there some

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-14 Thread James A Stimson
Dear Luters: I know we've talked about single versus double frets. Is there some bit of evidence that indicates double fretting was more common? I ask because yesterday I was examining Orazio Gentileschi's The Lute Player at the National Gallery in Washington. This painting is so detailed

passionate gut: single or double frets

2004-04-14 Thread bill
dear jim - a fast scan of the cantigas de santa maria illustrations on: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/cantigas/ shows a few stringed instruments with frets - the majority however are fretless. unfortunately, the illustrations lack the detail of the gentileschi painting so the two parallel

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-12 Thread Jon Murphy
I ask a question of you all, in the light of this thread. It has been mentioned that the quality of gut and its processing has improved. But yet many on the list have a thing about being original. Not to denigrate that, I'm in the process of doing the same with a Celtic harp from ancient drawings.

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-12 Thread bill
hear! bloody! hear! historically informed performance has more to do with history in the abstract and scholarship than it does with music. to believe that what is played today is the same as what was played hundreds of years ago is pure conceit. to dismiss a performance as somehow in-genuine

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-12 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear Bill in your transition from synthetic to gut, did you stop at nylgut along the way? I used nylgut for a while on a 19th guitar. It is a dead string. It combines the worst characteristics of nylon with those of gut. Hence the name. No beauty in the sound, not good articulation, false (it

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-12 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear Stephan builder next door... How much is the difference in diameter of gut and overspun bass strings in your experience? Did your lutes need reworking? I had to drill tuning pegs and bridge holes. I used a small 'finger' drill. Shape of a pencil, replacable drill bits, for sale in the

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-12 Thread Eugene Braig
At 12:00 PM 04/12/2004 +0200, LGS-Europe wrote: I used nylgut for a while on a 19th guitar. It is a dead string. It combines the worst characteristics of nylon with those of gut. Hence the name. No beauty in the sound, not good articulation, false (it streches more in the middle than at the ends

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-12 Thread JEdwardsMusic
In a message dated 4/12/2004 8:01:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I definitely favor the sound of gut over synthetics on instruments intended for gut. To play devil's advocate for just a moment, however, there are some notables who sing Nylgut's praises. Paul O'Dette

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
I agree, gut is the best sound overall; but depending on who made the instrument and who is playing it, nylgut can sound quite good. I think the better the quality of the instrument, the better it can sound with nylon, nylgut, carbon, etc. Not to mention one's hand. Gut (so much thicker in

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-12 Thread KennethBeLute
In a message dated 4/12/2004 11:34:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JEdwardsMusic writes: I agree, gut is the best sound overall; but depending on who made the instrument and who is playing it, nylgut can sound quite good. This is so true. Paul O'Dette can string a lute with a ball of yarn, as

passionate gut

2004-04-11 Thread LGS-Europe
Again, some gutsy stories for those who are still doubting wether they should change to gut or not. In Holland we have a passion season: many performances of the St. Matthew and St. John Passions by Bach just before Easter. Before I changed my archlute to gut I was affraid of the passion season.

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-11 Thread Edward Martin
David, I find your enthusiasm for gut a very good thing, and I think it is exciting for you to share with us your positive experiences with gut. I have no arguments at all, and I have been using gut exclusively for the past 8-9 years. It is to bad that gut has a bad reputation for tuning.

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-11 Thread bill
dear david - i enjoyed reading your letter. there is a french group called the dufay collective which uses an oud with gut strings - at least, i think that's the reason their oud sounds so good - very piano, i would say; passionate but understated. they also do some frenetic numbers which

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-11 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear David, thanks for keeping us informed about your gut feelings :-) I always wanted to try out gut strings, but I think some work on the bridge, nut and pegs of my 8-course would be necessary. However, I don't want to do that myself and there's no lute builder next door... How much is the

Re: passionate gut

2004-04-11 Thread KennethBeLute
In a message dated 4/11/04 9:57:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have found gut to be more stable than synthetic strings. I think the quality processing has improved, but I also think we are learning how to use it, and how to tune it keep it in tune. True! In