Angus Leeming wrote:
From the mailer. Attached is the test code I've used. 'conftest.sh'
invokes a dummy 'configure' that just prints out the args:
$ sh conftest.sh
./configure --with-frontend='xforms qt gtk'
arg is --with-frontend='xforms
arg is qt
arg is gtk'
I get the same results on
Georg Baum wrote:
for arg in $@
This needs to be:
for arg in @
That's $@ ?
as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same
wrong result even if the input was correct.
Explanation please.
--
Angus
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Angus It seems like the older mail archives have died: Old lyx-devl
Angus archive:
Angus http://www.via.ecp.fr/lyx/archive/ Not Found The requested URL
Angus /lyx/archive/ was not found on this server.
I have sent a message to them asking
The moral of the story is that this works:
CONFIGURE=../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC} --enable-maintainer-mode
--with-version-suffix --with-included-gettext
echo ${CONFIGURE} --with-frontend=${FRONTEND}
cd ${BUILDDIR}
${CONFIGURE} --with-frontend=${FRONTEND}
But putting the
Attached is a generic layout engine for rectangular boxes that I think
should be used by the xforms frontend to lay out the main LyX window.
I think that this is the necessary first step to enabling the xforms
frontend to display multiple, dynamically-visible toolbars
The code in Layout.[Ch]
Angus Leeming wrote:
Georg Baum wrote:
for arg in $@
This needs to be:
for arg in @
That's $@ ?
Of course, sorry for the confusion.
as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same
wrong result even if the input was correct.
Explanation please.
From the bash
Angus Leeming wrote:
The moral of the story is that this works:
CONFIGURE=../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC}
--enable-maintainer-mode --with-version-suffix --with-included-gettext
echo ${CONFIGURE} --with-frontend=${FRONTEND}
cd ${BUILDDIR}
${CONFIGURE}
Georg Baum wrote:
From the bash manpage, section Special Parameters:
@ Expands to the positional parameters, starting from one.
When the expansion occurs within double quotes, each parameter
expands to a separate
word. That is, $@ is equivalent to $1 $2 ... When there are
no
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
bash dont do variable substitution inside '', but it does inside .
Sure. That's true of all sh-shells. csh too for that matter.
I don't know if this applies here though. Gee I barely know what are
we talkning about. ;-)
Shells are easy, except when they aren't.
--
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
What I've been doing yesterday was trying to fix Lyx when pressing
German special characters... Kind of annoys me as a native German
writer ;)
To make it short, I think the problem stems from the Xft font
metrics... Whenever I press ü for example, I get a
On Monday 26 April 2004 15:16, Angus Leeming wrote:
What happens for users of Python 2.0? They continue to use mktemp?
I am afraid so.
For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for those
users. Finally I got the one attached.
So I will use our TempFile for python 2.0
Jose' Matos wrote:
What happens for users of Python 2.0? They continue to use
mktemp?
I am afraid so.
For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for
those users. Finally I got the one attached.
;-) Jose, you've just fallen into the trap of doing my work for me.
On Thursday 22 April 2004 10:09 am, you wrote:
Kuba == Kuba Ober [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kuba But -- never say never. You never know :)
Kuba Well, next summer I'll be (likely) in Poland, so maybe if you
Kuba feel like going there the beer is even better!
You mean that you propose to
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
So it looks as if the invocation of XftTextExtents32() fails for some
reason. In GTK that's also not the way you should do font metrics...
Actually you should use Pango, since this is the GTK font magician.
There has been a discussion about using pango. See
Martin == Martin Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 09:35:34PM +0200, Andre Poenitz spake
Martin thusly:
Is anybody out there planning anything specific?
Martin What about Helsinki (more precisely Espoo)?
That would be a very nice idea indeed. I am all for it.
Kuba == Kuba Ober [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kuba On Thursday 22 April 2004 10:09 am, you wrote:
You mean that you propose to organize the next decelopers' meeting
in Poland? Nice of you ;)
Kuba With my schedule being up in the air for the next month, we're
Kuba not even talking next year yet
This is all highly unofficial and can be considered hearsay:
It'd be doable in Pozna, Poland. What'd ya think?
Cheers, Kuba Ober
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 14:04, Angus Leeming wrote:
Jose' Matos wrote:
What happens for users of Python 2.0? They continue to use
mktemp?
I am afraid so.
For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for
those users. Finally I got the one attached.
;-) Jose,
Georg Baum Georg.Baum at post.rwth-aachen.de writes:
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
So it looks as if the invocation of XftTextExtents32() fails for some
reason. In GTK that's also not the way you should do font metrics...
Actually you should use Pango, since this is the GTK font magician.
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:48, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
[...]
Me too, even the schedule is almost the same. :-)
--
José Abílio
LyX and docbook, a perfect match. :-)
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 03:27:39PM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote:
So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts?
Obviously the GTK version cannot proccess non-English characters. This is a
You're making an assumption that the only way to fix the GTK frontend
bug is to use Pango.
Jose' Matos wrote:
You are killing me, first you take great pains to make sure that
we use secure temporary files and then you use pipes. Until
python 2.3 that module also used mktemp I would jump from
a cliff if I had one near... ;-)
Ok, I think that I have a solution for
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts?
[...snip...]
Sorry to be a bit harsh.
I think Georg was providing you with information that might be useful
to you. I didn't read his letter as being rude, so don't think you
need feel irritated by it...
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts?
Not at all, and I am a bit surprised that you understood it like that. I
just wanted to make you aware of the old arguments and was too lazy to
repeat them. IIRC Huang Ying wanted to change to pango too, so the
Juergen Spitzmueller juergen.sp at t-online.de writes:
Redraw screen
BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) id: 0
[snip]
#9 0x40c6ed31 in _XF86BigfontQueryFont ()
from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
#10 0x40c6e45a in XLoadQueryFont () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
#11 0x40a6ed03
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
This is an xforms problem isn't it?
But it works with the xforms frontend. I suspect that it has something to do
with the tabs resizing method (and the font request), but this might be
completely wrong.
Regards,
Jürgen
greetings,
Andreas
Kuba Ober wrote:
This is all highly unofficial and can be considered hearsay:
It'd be doable in Pozna, Poland. What'd ya think?
Cheers, Kuba Ober
Cheers indeed!
Super methinks.
Alfredo
Angus Leeming wrote:
The moral of the story is that this works:
CONFIGURE=../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC}
--enable-maintainer-mode --with-version-suffix
--with-included-gettext
echo ${CONFIGURE} --with-frontend=${FRONTEND}
cd ${BUILDDIR}
${CONFIGURE}
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:13:12AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
Georg Baum wrote:
for arg in $@
This needs to be:
for arg in @
That's $@ ?
Yes.
as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same
wrong result even if the input was correct.
Explanation
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 02:04:41PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
I'd buy you a beer, if only you touched the stuff ;-)
I suppose you should give him a choice of beer or cucumber juice...
Andre'
Andre Poenitz wrote:
I'd buy you a beer, if only you touched the stuff ;-)
I suppose you should give him a choice of beer or cucumber juice...
Nah! That'd be pandering to bad habits...
--
Angus
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:44, Angus Leeming wrote:
Ok, I think that I have a solution for that also, make the pipe
template return a file like object to be read.
What does it means $IN and $OUT in the next function?
Read the blurb at the top of pipes.py ;-)
Actually I have and
Angus Leeming leeming at lyx.org writes:
But does Pango require the use of Unicode? LyX isn't there yet.
I did some stuff using gtk and pango, and never worried about that. Neither in
the editor, nor in a glade file or wherever. The only thing is that I needed to
make my xml files utf8
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 07:16:25PM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote:
The big benefit of UTF 8 is that you can use it for everything. No need to
switch or determine a special encoding. Another big benefit is that it keeps
The encoding of LyX files is a small part of the problem. We also need
to
John Levon levon at movementarian.org writes:
It's not quite a simple a job as you suggest. Yet it's probably not
/too/ difficult either.
Well, it was just a question. It's not neccessary to do anything about it. A
simple locale to UTF8 conversion for sake of calling pango is all it needs, if
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:13:07AM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote:
I believe the complete unicode transition will be a very big step, and can only
be done if a good number of developers really want it. I am new with lyx
We ALL really want it :)
development and I didn't produce anything
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 04:48:13PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes spake thusly:
But if everybody else is all for Chemnitz, then I am all for Chemnitz
too ;)
Depends on cheap flights/land travel too. In that sense I suppose
Chemnitz is easier.
Concerning the disponibilities, it would be
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:13:07AM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote:
I believe the complete unicode transition will be a very big step, and can only
be done if a good number of developers really want it. I am new with lyx
| We ALL really want it :)
But
Angus Leeming wrote:
> From the mailer. Attached is the test code I've used. 'conftest.sh'
> invokes a dummy 'configure' that just prints out the args:
>
> $ sh conftest.sh
> ./configure --with-frontend='xforms qt gtk'
> arg is "--with-frontend='xforms"
> arg is "qt"
> arg is "gtk'"
I get the
Georg Baum wrote:
>> for arg in $@
>
> This needs to be:
>
> for arg in "@"
That's "$@" ?
> as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same
> wrong result even if the input was correct.
Explanation please.
--
Angus
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Angus> It seems like the older mail archives have died: Old lyx-devl
Angus> archive:
Angus> http://www.via.ecp.fr/lyx/archive/ Not Found The requested URL
Angus> /lyx/archive/ was not found on this server.
I have sent a message to them
The moral of the story is that this works:
CONFIGURE="../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC} --enable-maintainer-mode
--with-version-suffix --with-included-gettext"
echo ${CONFIGURE} "--with-frontend=${FRONTEND}"
cd ${BUILDDIR}
${CONFIGURE} "--with-frontend=${FRONTEND}"
But putting the
Attached is a generic layout engine for rectangular boxes that I think
should be used by the xforms frontend to lay out the main LyX window.
I think that this is the necessary first step to enabling the xforms
frontend to display multiple, dynamically-visible toolbars
The code in Layout.[Ch]
Angus Leeming wrote:
> Georg Baum wrote:
>>> for arg in $@
>>
>> This needs to be:
>>
>> for arg in "@"
>
> That's "$@" ?
Of course, sorry for the confusion.
>> as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same
>> wrong result even if the input was correct.
>
>
Angus Leeming wrote:
> The moral of the story is that this works:
>
> CONFIGURE="../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC}
> --enable-maintainer-mode --with-version-suffix --with-included-gettext"
>
> echo ${CONFIGURE} "--with-frontend=${FRONTEND}"
> cd ${BUILDDIR}
> ${CONFIGURE}
Georg Baum wrote:
> From the bash manpage, section "Special Parameters":
>
> @ Expands to the positional parameters, starting from one.
> When the expansion occurs within double quotes, each parameter
> expands to a separate
> word. That is, "$@" is equivalent to "$1" "$2" ... When there
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
> bash dont do variable substitution inside '', but it does inside "".
Sure. That's true of all sh-shells. csh too for that matter.
> I don't know if this applies here though. Gee I barely know what are
> we talkning about. ;-)
Shells are easy, except when they aren't.
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
> What I've been doing yesterday was trying to fix Lyx when pressing
> German special characters... Kind of annoys me as a native German
> writer ;)
>
> To make it short, I think the problem stems from the Xft font
> metrics... Whenever I press "ü" for example, I get a
On Monday 26 April 2004 15:16, Angus Leeming wrote:
>
> What happens for users of Python < 2.0? They continue to use mktemp?
I am afraid so.
For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for those
users. Finally I got the one attached.
So I will use our TempFile for python <
Jose' Matos wrote:
>> What happens for users of Python < 2.0? They continue to use
>> mktemp?
>
> I am afraid so.
>
> For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for
> those users. Finally I got the one attached.
;-) Jose, you've just fallen into the trap of doing my work
On Thursday 22 April 2004 10:09 am, you wrote:
> > "Kuba" == Kuba Ober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Kuba> But -- never say never. You never know :)
>
> Kuba> Well, next summer I'll be (likely) in Poland, so maybe if you
> Kuba> feel like going there the beer is even better!
>
> You mean
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
> So it looks as if the invocation of XftTextExtents32() fails for some
> reason. In GTK that's also not the way you should do font metrics...
> Actually you should use Pango, since this is the GTK font magician.
There has been a discussion about using pango. See
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 09:35:34PM +0200, Andre Poenitz spake
Martin> thusly:
>> Is anybody out there planning anything specific?
Martin> What about Helsinki (more precisely Espoo)?
That would be a very nice idea indeed. I am
> "Kuba" == Kuba Ober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kuba> On Thursday 22 April 2004 10:09 am, you wrote:
>> You mean that you propose to organize the next decelopers' meeting
>> in Poland? Nice of you ;)
Kuba> With my schedule being up in the air for the next month, we're
Kuba> not even
This is all highly unofficial and can be considered hearsay:
It'd be doable in PoznaÅ, Poland. What'd ya think?
Cheers, Kuba Ober
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 14:04, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Jose' Matos wrote:
> >> What happens for users of Python < 2.0? They continue to use
> >> mktemp?
> >
> > I am afraid so.
> >
> > For almost a day I have been trying to find an alternative for
> > those users. Finally I got the one
Georg Baum post.rwth-aachen.de> writes:
>
> Andreas Klostermann wrote:
>
> > So it looks as if the invocation of XftTextExtents32() fails for some
> > reason. In GTK that's also not the way you should do font metrics...
> > Actually you should use Pango, since this is the GTK font magician.
>
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 15:48, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
[...]
Me too, even the schedule is almost the same. :-)
--
José Abílio
LyX and docbook, a perfect match. :-)
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 03:27:39PM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote:
> So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts?
> Obviously the GTK version cannot proccess non-English characters. This is a
You're making an assumption that the only way to fix the GTK frontend
bug is to use
Jose' Matos wrote:
> You are killing me, first you take great pains to make sure that
> we use secure temporary files and then you use pipes. Until
> python 2.3 that module also used mktemp I would jump from
> a cliff if I had one near... ;-)
>
> Ok, I think that I have a solution
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
> So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts?
[...snip...]
> Sorry to be a bit harsh.
I think Georg was providing you with information that might be useful
to you. I didn't read his letter as being rude, so don't think you
need feel irritated by it...
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
> So do you propose to stop a new discussion in the starts?
Not at all, and I am a bit surprised that you understood it like that. I
just wanted to make you aware of the old arguments and was too lazy to
repeat them. IIRC Huang Ying wanted to change to pango too, so
Juergen Spitzmueller t-online.de> writes:
> Redraw screen
> BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) id: 0
[snip]
> #9 0x40c6ed31 in _XF86BigfontQueryFont ()
>from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
> #10 0x40c6e45a in XLoadQueryFont () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
> #11 0x40a6ed03 in
Andreas Klostermann wrote:
> This is an xforms problem isn't it?
But it works with the xforms frontend. I suspect that it has something to do
with the tabs resizing method (and the font request), but this might be
completely wrong.
Regards,
Jürgen
> greetings,
> Andreas
Kuba Ober wrote:
> This is all highly unofficial and can be considered hearsay:
>
> It'd be doable in PoznaÅ, Poland. What'd ya think?
>
> Cheers, Kuba Ober
Cheers indeed!
Super methinks.
Alfredo
Angus Leeming wrote:
> The moral of the story is that this works:
>
> CONFIGURE="../configure --prefix=/usr/local ${EXTRAINC}
> --enable-maintainer-mode --with-version-suffix
> --with-included-gettext"
>
> echo ${CONFIGURE} "--with-frontend=${FRONTEND}"
> cd ${BUILDDIR}
> ${CONFIGURE}
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 11:13:12AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Georg Baum wrote:
> >> for arg in $@
> >
> > This needs to be:
> >
> > for arg in "@"
>
> That's "$@" ?
Yes.
>
> > as I learned recently from André. Otherwise it would print the same
> > wrong result even if the input was
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 02:04:41PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
> I'd buy you a beer, if only you touched the stuff ;-)
I suppose you should give him a choice of beer or cucumber juice...
Andre'
Andre Poenitz wrote:
>> I'd buy you a beer, if only you touched the stuff ;-)
> I suppose you should give him a choice of beer or cucumber juice...
Nah! That'd be pandering to bad habits...
--
Angus
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 16:44, Angus Leeming wrote:
> > Ok, I think that I have a solution for that also, make the pipe
> > template return a file like object to be read.
> >
> > What does it means $IN and $OUT in the next function?
>
> Read the blurb at the top of pipes.py ;-)
Actually I
Angus Leeming lyx.org> writes:
>
> But does Pango require the use of Unicode? LyX isn't there yet.
>
I did some stuff using gtk and pango, and never worried about that. Neither in
the editor, nor in a glade file or wherever. The only thing is that I needed to
make my xml files utf8 encoded
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 07:16:25PM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote:
> The big benefit of UTF 8 is that you can use it for everything. No need to
> switch or determine a special encoding. Another big benefit is that it keeps
The encoding of LyX files is a small part of the problem. We also need
John Levon movementarian.org> writes:
> It's not quite a simple a job as you suggest. Yet it's probably not
> /too/ difficult either.
Well, it was just a question. It's not neccessary to do anything about it. A
simple locale to UTF8 conversion for sake of calling pango is all it needs, if
at
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:13:07AM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote:
> I believe the complete unicode transition will be a very big step, and can only
> be done if a good number of developers really want it. I am new with lyx
We ALL really want it :)
> development and I didn't produce anything
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 04:48:13PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes spake thusly:
> But if everybody else is all for Chemnitz, then I am all for Chemnitz
> too ;)
Depends on cheap flights/land travel too. In that sense I suppose
Chemnitz is easier.
> Concerning the disponibilities, it would be
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:13:07AM +, Andreas Klostermann wrote:
>
>> I believe the complete unicode transition will be a very big step, and can only
>> be done if a good number of developers really want it. I am new with lyx
>
| We ALL really want it
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