Am Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2006 17:59 schrieb Andre Poenitz:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 03:44:09PM +1800, Bo Peng wrote:
> > The only problem I can see is that this project is young (6 month
> > old?), with only two developers.
The cvs has the first commits two years ago. A project that still has t
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 03:44:09PM +1800, Bo Peng wrote:
> The only problem I can see is that this project is young (6 month
> old?), with only two developers.
Knuth certainly spent less than a year for the first TeX parser...
Andre'
> You should be more confident in the python capabilities:
>
> http://plastex.sourceforge.net/
I had a look (without actually running anything) at plastex today and it
looks pretty good. It's probably even closer to a real TeX parser than
tex2lyx.
It indeed looks promising. It sounds like all w
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 6:23 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> Somewhere in a forest in Poland with not enough non-fish food for a few
> days...
Pragmatic, as always. :-)
That is why I like to meet other developers, I would not fully understand
what you said unless I knew you face to face. :-
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 02:46:56AM +, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
> Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > But you understand that lyx2lyx reads LyX format whereas tex2lyx reads
> > .tex and that _reading_ is the difficult part?
>
> You should be more confident in the python capabilitie
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:07:03PM +, José Matos wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 December 2006 6:58 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > Andre', who has been seen eating fish.
>
> Now I am impressed. Honestly. ;-)
Somewhere in a forest in Poland with not enough non-fish food for a few
days...
Andre'
On Tuesday 05 December 2006 6:58 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> Andre', who has been seen eating fish.
Now I am impressed. Honestly. ;-)
--
José Abílio
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 11:51:51AM +, José Matos wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 November 2006 9:46 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > But we could as well tie him on a cucumber field, couldn't we?
>
> That is not a problem, in my parent's small farm they have cucumbers and I
> don't have any problem se
On Thursday 30 November 2006 8:12 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I think the real problem is that, now that he has finished his PhD
> thesis, he is bored.
Au contraire, I did not had a single moment to stop since then. I expect to
take some time after alpha 2 release. Vertigo and frantic (fr
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 9:46 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> But we could as well tie him on a cucumber field, couldn't we?
That is not a problem, in my parent's small farm they have cucumbers and I
don't have any problem seeing them as long as I don't have to eat them. :-)
> Andre'
--
José
On Sunday 03 December 2006 2:46 am, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
> José, when we will see LyX rewritten in python? ;-)
Only the future will tell. ;-)
And no, I don't have plan to rewrite lyx in python, fwiw. :-)
> --
> Enrico
--
José Abílio
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 9:49 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> But you understand that lyx2lyx reads LyX format whereas tex2lyx reads
> .tex and that _reading_ is the difficult part?
Sure, I like python because it has a nice and powerful standard library
where the strings related functions are o
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But you understand that lyx2lyx reads LyX format whereas tex2lyx reads
> .tex and that _reading_ is the difficult part?
You should be more confident in the python capabilities:
http://plastex.sourceforge.net/
José, when we will see LyX rewritten in py
Andre Poenitz a écrit :
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 06:46:25PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I do not understand it either, other than the fact that José wants to
rewrite everything in python.
But we could as well tie him on a cucumber field, couldn't we?
I think the real problem is that, n
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 05:59:40PM +, José Matos wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 November 2006 5:46 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> >
> > I do not understand it either, other than the fact that José wants
> > to rewrite everything in python.
>
> My purpose with lyx2lyx was always to write a library
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 06:46:25PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Andre> On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:33:28PM +0100, Georg Baum wrote:
> >> Nothing is wrong with updating tex2lyx to the current format, but
> >> as I stated already
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 11:10:56AM +, José Matos wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 November 2006 7:32 am, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> >
> > Here is my view of the subject FWIW: The problem is that you are
> > discouraging Georg and probably other to further update tex2lyx. I can
> > personally can see th
Georg Baum wrote:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
But shouldn't that be the goal? I mean, it would make a lot of sense to
me if tex2lyx used the LyX memory model by filling in inset by inset a
lyx::Buffer.
It would be interesting to try that out. It would certainly require some
work, e.g. tex2lyx do
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> But shouldn't that be the goal? I mean, it would make a lot of sense to
> me if tex2lyx used the LyX memory model by filling in inset by inset a
> lyx::Buffer.
It would be interesting to try that out. It would certainly require some
work, e.g. tex2lyx does not interpret
Georg Baum wrote:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
José Matos wrote:
My purpose is to do this for 1.6, I do not intend to start from scratch
(that would be madness) but to use different available tools, that I have
described in other messages.
Indeed. The difference between you (José) and me is th
José Matos wrote:
> On Monday 27 November 2006 4:07 pm, Ozgur Ugras BARAN wrote:
>> It would be better put
>> this patch now (If Jose approves), so there will be no file format
>> change for lyx-1.5 series.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>
> What do Georg and Bo think about this patch?
I don't like LFUN
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> José Matos wrote:
>> My purpose is to do this for 1.6, I do not intend to start from scratch
>> (that would be madness) but to use different available tools, that I have
>> described in other messages.
Indeed. The difference between you (José) and me is that I doubt t
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Sure, I have never said the opposite. My purpose is also not to
>> discourage anyone from improving tex2lyx, an healthy competition is
>> always in our best interest.
Abdelrazak> Well, I'd rather let Georg concentrate his fre
José Matos wrote:
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 7:32 am, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Here is my view of the subject FWIW: The problem is that you are
discouraging Georg and probably other to further update tex2lyx. I can
personally can see the advantages of a python implementation (easier
maintenan
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 7:32 am, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>
> Here is my view of the subject FWIW: The problem is that you are
> discouraging Georg and probably other to further update tex2lyx. I can
> personally can see the advantages of a python implementation (easier
> maintenance, easier
On Monday 27 November 2006 4:07 pm, Ozgur Ugras BARAN wrote:
> It would be better put
> this patch now (If Jose approves), so there will be no file format
> change for lyx-1.5 series.
>
> Thanks a lot.
What do Georg and Bo think about this patch?
I don't have a problem with the file format c
Bo Peng wrote:
> Seriously, tex2lyx is rarely used (so speed is not an issue) and
> involves a lot of string handling. Python seems to be a much better
> language for this purpose than C++.
That is not the question. Speed is really not an issue (and tex2lyx is slow
for large documents because of
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> You should clarify your plan IMHO.
I asked for that clarification some time ago, and José said he plans to do
that for 1.6.
I don't care about the time frame. As long as he seriously plans to do that
any work on tex2lyx apart from fixing very simple bugs is wasted.
Ge
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> Here is my view of the subject FWIW: The problem is that
Abdelrazak> you are discouraging Georg and probably other to further
Abdelrazak> update tex2lyx.
Abdelrazak> Now, if your plan is really to do that RSN and you
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bo> Seriously, tex2lyx is rarely used (so speed is not an issue) and
Bo> involves a lot of string handling.
There is not a lot of string handling. Whereas lyx2lyx works with
search and replace, tex2lyx is a parser. I do not think the advantages
o
José Matos wrote:
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 5:46 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I do not understand it either, other than the fact that José wants to
rewrite everything in python.
My purpose with lyx2lyx was always to write a library (in python) capable of
reading and writing lyx files.
I do not understand it either, other than the fact that José wants to
rewrite everything in python.
I also want to rewrite everything in python. :-)
Seriously, tex2lyx is rarely used (so speed is not an issue) and
involves a lot of string handling. Python seems to be a much better
language for
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 5:46 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
> I do not understand it either, other than the fact that José wants to
> rewrite everything in python.
My purpose with lyx2lyx was always to write a library (in python) capable of
reading and writing lyx files.
It is a lot ea
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:33:28PM +0100, Georg Baum wrote:
>> Nothing is wrong with updating tex2lyx to the current format, but
>> as I stated already _I_ am not going to do this, because José wants
>> to rewrite it in python and I
Andre Poenitz wrote:
> I am not sure I understand the reason why tex2lyx needs to be rewritten
> in python.
Me neither.
> It sort of works right now, doesn't it?
Yes, it does. Of course it could be improved in several areas, but it will
be a lot of work to reach the same level again in a rewrit
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 01:33:28PM +0100, Georg Baum wrote:
> Nothing is wrong with updating tex2lyx to the current format, but as I
> stated already _I_ am not going to do this, because José wants to rewrite
> it in python and I don't want to waste my time. If somebody else wants to
> do that I
On Monday 27 November 2006 9:38 am, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Forget what I said Jose, you are obviously the only candidate and I
> don't want to irritate you. Please ignore my suggestion.
I have been busy lately although things are improving. One point to be
understood in my actions is that I
It is attached.. I have simplified by removing \clearpage stuff, since
you have done it nicely. I hope I did not forget any files for the
patch, which is a possibility since my working version is a mess. :-)
\linebreak code is functional, but should be hidden in GUI. The reason
is I had no time t
last and very IMPORTANT: I have sent a better patch in a separate mail
including a new feature "\linebreak", which was also asked in the same
mail that clearpage asked. I will be glad if you people review that
patch, be volunteer to support this feature (so, Jose can put it for
alpha), and commit,
Sorry for not writing earlier, but I was incredibly busy. I'll try to
write for all the conversation:
Herbert, I did not create the confusion on the insetpagebreak and
/newpage. It was already there. I wanted to implement /pagebreak, but
in order not to deepen confusion between versions, I decide
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
José Matos wrote:
On Friday 24 November 2006 7:04 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
I wonder how this will continue after alpha 37.
No new features, no matter how small they are. Bugfixes are allowed,
after all.
Jose, I don't want to sound too negative but it seems that y
Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 23:56 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
> Jose, I don't want to sound too negative but it seems that you don't
> have the time to handle the alpha release management. If I am right
> here, may I suggest that you pass the hand to someone else? Georg would
> be the perfect c
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Abdelrazak> If I am right here, may I suggest that you pass the hand
Abdelrazak> to someone else? Georg would be the perfect candidate IMHO
Abdelrazak> but JMarc or Michael would do fine also.
I already don't find the time to handle 1.4.4!
Don't count on me, too
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> Jose, I don't want to sound too negative but it seems that
Abdelrazak> you don't have the time to handle the alpha release
Abdelrazak> management.
I am not sure about that...
Abdelrazak> If I am right here, may I su
José Matos wrote:
On Friday 24 November 2006 7:04 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
I wonder how this will continue after alpha 37.
No new features, no matter how small they are. Bugfixes are allowed, after
all.
Jose, I don't want to sound too negative but it seems that you don't
have the time to
If you put this in I'll test the lyx2lyx part and fix it if needed.
Done. latexLabel changed to getCmdName. Thanks.
Bo
Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 04:07 schrieb Bo Peng:
> > Sigh. Once again: tex2lyx _must not_ be changed unless somebody
implements
> > the changes from format 245 to 254 first. Otherwise tex2lyx will
generate
> > invalid files.
>
> I was asking if someone can complete this patch with needed tex
On Friday 24 November 2006 7:04 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> I wonder how this will continue after alpha 37.
No new features, no matter how small they are. Bugfixes are allowed, after
all.
> Andre'
--
José Abílio
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 03:41:28PM +, José Matos wrote:
> If you back this feature as well that makes three developers and the code
> can be committed.
>
> Capice? ;-)
I wonder how this will continue after alpha 37.
Andre'
Sigh. Once again: tex2lyx _must not_ be changed unless somebody implements
the changes from format 245 to 254 first. Otherwise tex2lyx will generate
invalid files.
I was asking if someone can complete this patch with needed tex2lyx
changes so that this patch will *not* produce invalid files. Wha
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Georg> IMO we should either use the version of Ugras, or not create
Georg> any new inset but let InsetPagebreak inherit from InsetCommand.
Georg> Then the command name would be an argument of the constructor,
Georg> and we could even implemen
Bo Peng wrote:
> Attached is what I believe a cleaner implementation of
> clearpage/cleardoublepage. Please, tex2lyx and lyx2lyx experts, fix
> tex2lyx and lyx2lyx so that I can apply it.
Sigh. Once again: tex2lyx _must not_ be changed unless somebody implements
the changes from format 245 to 254
Attached is what I believe a cleaner implementation of
clearpage/cleardoublepage. Please, tex2lyx and lyx2lyx experts, fix
tex2lyx and lyx2lyx so that I can apply it.
Thanks.
Bo
Index: src/LyXAction.C
===
--- src/LyXAction.C (revisio
Bo Peng wrote:
>> } else if (token == "\\newpage") {
>> par.insertInset(par.size(), new InsetPagebreak, font,
>> change);
>>
>> should be InsetNewpage
>
> I do not quite get it. You mean the original code for newpage is broken?
No. It looks like the two ar
} else if (token == "\\newpage") {
par.insertInset(par.size(), new InsetPagebreak, font, change);
should be InsetNewpage
I do not quite get it. You mean the original code for newpage is broken?
Bo
Bo Peng schrieb:
>> If you back this feature as well that makes three developers and the
>> code
>> can be committed.
>
> I like this feature and read the patch briefly. I am not sure what you
> mean by 'back', but I guess I can fix problems of this feature when
> bugs are found (not tex2lyx or
If you back this feature as well that makes three developers and the code
can be committed.
I like this feature and read the patch briefly. I am not sure what you
mean by 'back', but I guess I can fix problems of this feature when
bugs are found (not tex2lyx or lyx2lyx though).
Bo
José Matos wrote:
On Thursday 23 November 2006 3:33 pm, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
I second that Jose. Ugras has proved himself already. If it is OK with
Georg (and it is apparently), IMHO you can trust them to do the right
thing. We really don't have enough resources to require two main
developer
On Thursday 23 November 2006 3:33 pm, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>
> I second that Jose. Ugras has proved himself already. If it is OK with
> Georg (and it is apparently), IMHO you can trust them to do the right
> thing. We really don't have enough resources to require two main
> developers for that.
Ozgur Ugras BARAN wrote:
The code is extremely simple and easy to maintain, therefore, one
developer should be enough.
I second that Jose. Ugras has proved himself already. If it is OK with
Georg (and it is apparently), IMHO you can trust them to do the right
thing. We really don't have enoug
The code is extremely simple and easy to maintain, therefore, one
developer should be enough. Considering that I won't be available for
a couple of months, this one person cannot be me.
If you wish, you can add these features without ui entry, so, they are
accepted in lyx-1.5.0 file format and wo
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 6:00 pm, Georg Baum wrote:
> > I'll be glad if somebody test and apply the patch.
>
> José, would this be OK for 1.5.0? If yes I can do the lyx2lyx part in 10
> minutes and put it in. Ugras, you could also have a look at the lyx2lyx
> part yourself if you want. It is not
Georg Baum schrieb:
> Herbert Voss wrote:
>
>> and there is a \newpage ...
>
> I know. I always thought that it was equivalent to \clearpage. If that is
> not true, what is the difference?
\newpage has the same behaviour for a page as \newline
for a line, the "break" follows immediately after th
> and there is a \newpage ...
I know. I always thought that it was equivalent to \clearpage. If that is
not true, what is the difference?
"The \clearpage command ends the current page and causes all figures
and tables that have so far appeared in the input to be printed."
\newpage only starts a
Herbert Voss wrote:
> and there is a \newpage ...
I know. I always thought that it was equivalent to \clearpage. If that is
not true, what is the difference?
Georg
Georg Baum schrieb:
> Am Dienstag, 21. November 2006 15:57 schrieb Ozgur Ugras BARAN:
>> As requested today, I have added \clearpage and \cleardoublepage
>> commands.
>
> As I wrote: The changes are trivial. If this should appear in a menu then
> we would also need an explanation of the differenc
Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> As requested today, I have added \clearpage and \cleardoublepage
> commands.
Thanks a lot. Could you please add support for \linebreak and \pagebreak too?
That would make you a real hero. :)
Andreas
Ozgur Ugras BARAN wrote:
> lyx2lyx took really little time. (15 minutes or so.) I have attached
> the patch. I have increased the version number, by the way. Please
> correct it, if necessary.
No, the version number should be increased, since it is a file format
change.
> For tex2lyx, OK then, I
lyx2lyx took really little time. (15 minutes or so.) I have attached
the patch. I have increased the version number, by the way. Please
correct it, if necessary.
For tex2lyx, OK then, I believe that my patch should be applied if
clearpage stuff is in. In any case somebody (unfortunately not me)
s
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