Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-24 Thread Georg Baum
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Michael Gerz schrieb: Moreover, your installer (small edition) is 20 MB whereas Joost's version comprises about 8 MB. Some people (like me) do not want to download a large bunch of tools with every LyX update. The aim is that you also have a ready to work installation

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-24 Thread Joost Verburg
I haven't said that Joost's code is bad or whatever, I only don't understand it. He do so many things that I also do in completely different ways. When I do something in is a different way there is usually a good reason, like supporting non-admin installation or providing a more reliable

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-24 Thread Georg Baum
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Michael Gerz schrieb: >> Moreover, your installer (small >> edition) is > 20 MB whereas Joost's version comprises about 8 MB. Some >> people (like me) do not want to download a large bunch of tools with >> every LyX update. > > The aim is that you also have a ready to work

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-24 Thread Joost Verburg
> I haven't said that Joost's code is bad or whatever, I only don't > understand it. He do so many things that I also do in completely > different ways. When I do something in is a different way there is usually a good reason, like supporting non-admin installation or providing a more reliable

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Bo Peng schrieb: One of my friends used 'some installer from wiki' and complained that his \alpha is displayed as some strange symbol. The problem disappeared after he re-installed lyx using Joost's installer. Uwe, are you aware of such problems? No, nobody reported this to me. The installers

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Gerz
Bo Peng schrieb: Joost and Uwe, Could you please try to merge the two windows installers? It is definitely confusing to have two installers so please at least put a README file explaining the differences between them. If you guys can not reach an agreement on some issues, please bring them up

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Gerz
Uwe Stöhr schrieb: But what are the differences between the two installers? My impression is that Joost's installer is techniquely advanced, and Uwe's installer takes care of lot of issues of third-party applications. I listed the differences here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Michael Gerz schrieb: I think the major problem with your installer (from its very beginning) was that you changed LyX's behaviour. OK, you said that your customers asked for these changes and it is your right to modify LyX (no doubt). However, for an official LyX installer this is

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Bo Peng schrieb: One of my friends used 'some installer from wiki' and complained that his \alpha is displayed as some strange symbol. The problem disappeared after he re-installed lyx using Joost's installer. Uwe, are you aware of such problems? No, nobody reported this to me. The installers

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Gerz
Bo Peng schrieb: Joost and Uwe, Could you please try to merge the two windows installers? It is definitely confusing to have two installers so please at least put a README file explaining the differences between them. If you guys can not reach an agreement on some issues, please bring them up

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Gerz
Uwe Stöhr schrieb: > But what are the differences between the two installers? My impression > is that Joost's installer is techniquely advanced, and Uwe's installer > takes care of lot of issues of third-party applications. I listed the differences here:

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Michael Gerz schrieb: I think the major problem with your installer (from its very beginning) was that you changed LyX's behaviour. OK, you said that your "customers" asked for these changes and it is your right to modify LyX (no doubt). However, for an "official LyX installer" this is

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-22 Thread Bo Peng
I think the problem is that Uwe hasn't been able to reach Joost But what are the differences between the two installers? My impression is that Joost's installer is techniquely advanced, and Uwe's installer takes care of lot of issues of third-party applications. Bo

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-22 Thread Uwe Stöhr
But what are the differences between the two installers? My impression is that Joost's installer is techniquely advanced, and Uwe's installer takes care of lot of issues of third-party applications. I listed the differences here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller (This is against

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-22 Thread Bo Peng
Maybe unrelated to this issue. One of my friends used 'some installer from wiki' and complained that his \alpha is displayed as some strange symbol. The problem disappeared after he re-installed lyx using Joost's installer. Uwe, are you aware of such problems? Bo

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-22 Thread Bo Peng
I think the problem is that Uwe hasn't been able to reach Joost But what are the differences between the two installers? My impression is that Joost's installer is techniquely advanced, and Uwe's installer takes care of lot of issues of third-party applications. Bo

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-22 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> But what are the differences between the two installers? My impression > is that Joost's installer is techniquely advanced, and Uwe's installer > takes care of lot of issues of third-party applications. I listed the differences here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller (This is against

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-22 Thread Bo Peng
Maybe unrelated to this issue. One of my friends used 'some installer from wiki' and complained that his \alpha is displayed as some strange symbol. The problem disappeared after he re-installed lyx using Joost's installer. Uwe, are you aware of such problems? Bo

Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-21 Thread Bo Peng
Joost and Uwe, Could you please try to merge the two windows installers? It is definitely confusing to have two installers so please at least put a README file explaining the differences between them. If you guys can not reach an agreement on some issues, please bring them up and let Michael

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-21 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Bo Peng wrote: Joost and Uwe, Could you please try to merge the two windows installers? It is definitely confusing to have two installers so please at least put a README file explaining the differences between them. If you guys can not reach an agreement on some issues,

Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-21 Thread Bo Peng
Joost and Uwe, Could you please try to merge the two windows installers? It is definitely confusing to have two installers so please at least put a README file explaining the differences between them. If you guys can not reach an agreement on some issues, please bring them up and let Michael

Re: Do we have to have both Installer and LyxWinInstaller?

2007-01-21 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Bo Peng wrote: Joost and Uwe, Could you please try to merge the two windows installers? It is definitely confusing to have two installers so please at least put a README file explaining the differences between them. If you guys can not reach an agreement on some issues,