On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:19:33AM +0100, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
Andre Last time you I saw you were well above 30. I doubt this has
Andre changed in the mean time...
Let's say I will be over 40 next time. However, even with a foot in
the grave, I can kick your butt with the other one.
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:38:28PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:19:33AM +0100, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
Andre Last time you I saw you were well above 30. I doubt this has
Andre changed in the mean time...
Let's say I will be over 40 next time. However, even
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:19:33AM +0100, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
> > Andre> Last time you I saw you were well above 30. I doubt this has
> > Andre> changed in the mean time...
> >
> > Let's say I will be over 40 next time. However, even with a foot in
> > the grave, I can kick your butt with
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 11:38:28PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:19:33AM +0100, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
> > > Andre> Last time you I saw you were well above 30. I doubt this has
> > > Andre> changed in the mean time...
> > >
> > > Let's say I will be over 40 next
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 08:47:12AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andre On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:46:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre wrote:
Well, it is not as if I was dead [...]
Andre Last time you I saw you were well above
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 08:47:12AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Andre> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:46:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> Andre> wrote:
> >> Well, it is not as if I was dead [...]
>
> Andre> Last time you I saw
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:46:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Well, it is not as if I was dead [...]
Last time you I saw you were well above 30. I doubt this has changed in
the mean time...
Andre'
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andre On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:46:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre wrote:
Well, it is not as if I was dead [...]
Andre Last time you I saw you were well above 30. I doubt this has
Andre changed in the mean time...
Let's say I will be
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:46:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Well, it is not as if I was dead [...]
Last time you I saw you were well above 30. I doubt this has changed in
the mean time...
Andre'
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:46:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote:
>> Well, it is not as if I was dead [...]
Andre> Last time you I saw you were well above 30. I doubt this has
Andre> changed in the mean time...
Let's
Georg == Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Georg Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5.
Georg Which means that you did this for over 6 years.
Actually, this was for the 1.1.4 series, so that would be 7 years...
I'm
Jürgen == Jürgen Spitzmüller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jürgen Georg Baum wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5.
Which means that you did this for over 6 years. I think we all owe
you a big thank you.
Jürgen Indeed. And I think you did this job impressively well.
Enrico == Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Enrico On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Enrico wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be
glad to find someone to
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
These are sad news, Jean-Marc. I hope you will reconsider your
decision, but I can understand it. This has to be fun, otherwise it
is a job. Thank you for your commitment.
Angus Indeed. And your diplomacy ;-)
Ahh, at least someone willing to
cmiramon == cmiramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cmiramon Peter Kümmel wrote:
I don't know what's the best way to go, but we could start a new
endless discussion. (Have you registered that there wasn't such a
beast within the last months? There was more coding than
discussing. LyX is
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I think this works well with a big team, but this is not the case
here. Already setting up the schedule takes too much time on our
meager development forces.
I think so, too. Remember that only a handful of people are actually working
on the stable series (far less
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Georg 2) Backporting is work, not fun, therefore people tend to not
Georg do it. In fact, 1.4 and 1.5 are not too different in many areas
Georg of the code. Nevertheless Jean-Marc had to explicitly ask to
Georg backport some fixes of 1.5 to 1.4. Just look at his
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Enrico == Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Enrico On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Enrico wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I think this works well with a big team, but this is not the case
here. Already setting up the schedule takes too much time on our
meager development forces.
I think so, too. Remember that only a handful of people are actually working
on
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I think this works well with a big team, but this is not the case
here. Already setting up the schedule takes too much time on our
meager development forces.
I think so, too. Remember that only a handful of people are actually working
on
Abdelrazak == Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IMO a good prove that the current strategy works is the actual
series. 1.4.0 was released with lots of bugs and flaws. Now look at
1.4.4svn: It's still not perfect, but it stabilized significantly
(with any minor release). I think
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
By the way, I think you're the perfect candidate for the stable branch
Jurgen ;-)
No, I don't think so. My coding skills are too limited to do this job.
If not you, then that would probably be Jose or Georg. Maybe even
Michael... We are not short of talents here :-)
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Well, I don't want to diminish JMarc role which was really great but
1.4svn is also stabilizing a lot because most of the bugs were solved
first in 1.5svn.
Sure. But also vice versa (most bug reports we get are for the stable series,
since this is what people normally
On Monday 22 January 2007 10:32:22 am Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
This sounded very much like funeral speech indeed :-)
What?
A prosperous project is one where people don't stay fixed in their
positions. The analogy with the indoor bike racing where all team members
rotate in the lead is
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
By the way, I think you're the perfect candidate for the stable branch
Jurgen ;-)
No, I don't think so. My coding skills are too limited to do this job.
Please don't underestimate yourself. I think you're good enough.
If not you, then
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
That said, exactly because of his great coding skills it might be better
if he concentrates on the development branch. But who am I to distribute
tasks anyway? :-)
Let's see who's going to stand for it. I'm looking forward to some flaming
election speeches and
José Matos wrote:
On Monday 22 January 2007 10:32:22 am Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
This sounded very much like funeral speech indeed :-)
What?
A prosperous project is one where people don't stay fixed in their
positions. The analogy with the indoor bike racing where all team members
Jürgen == Jürgen Spitzmüller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jürgen Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
By the way, I think you're the perfect candidate for the stable
branch Jurgen ;-)
Jürgen No, I don't think so. My coding skills are too limited to do
Jürgen this job.
I do not think so. And you'd be
Abdelrazak == Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Abdelrazak José Matos wrote:
On Monday 22 January 2007 10:32:22 am Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
This sounded very much like funeral speech indeed :-)
What?
A prosperous project is one where people don't stay fixed in their
positions.
On Monday 22 January 2007 11:24:24 am Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
It is to make other people forget about the overdue beta version :)
I am working on it. :-)
JMarc, who should be preparing for 1.4.4 instead.
And I still have one patch commit to do there (already approved by you).
--
On Monday 22 January 2007 11:04:41 am Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Let's see who's going to stand for it. I'm looking forward to some flaming
election speeches and exposing private videos on youtube ;-)
You have my vote. :-)
Now, who should I bash? ;-)
Jürgen
--
José Abílio
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
That said, exactly because of his great coding skills it might be better
if he concentrates on the development branch. But who am I to distribute
tasks anyway? :-)
Let's see who's going to stand for it. I'm looking
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
By the way, I think you're the perfect candidate for the stable branch
Jurgen ;-)
No, I don't think so. My coding skills are too limited to do this job.
I don't think so. And even if you would hit problems you could always ask
others for
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Georg> Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>>> I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5.
Georg> Which means that you did this for over 6 years.
Actually, this was for the 1.1.4 series, so that would be 7
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jürgen> Georg Baum wrote:
>> >> I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5.
>>
>> Which means that you did this for over 6 years. I think we all owe
>> you a big thank you.
Jürgen> Indeed. And I think you did this job
> "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Enrico> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Enrico> wrote:
>> I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
>> admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be
>> glad
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> These are sad news, Jean-Marc. I hope you will reconsider your
>> decision, but I can understand it. This has to be fun, otherwise it
>> is a job. Thank you for your commitment.
Angus> Indeed. And your diplomacy ;-)
Ahh, at least
> "cmiramon" == cmiramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
cmiramon> Peter Kümmel wrote:
>> I don't know what's the best way to go, but we could start a new
>> endless discussion. (Have you registered that there wasn't such a
>> beast within the last months? There was more coding than
>>
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I think this works well with a big team, but this is not the case
> here. Already setting up the schedule takes too much time on our
> meager development forces.
I think so, too. Remember that only a handful of people are actually working
on the stable series (far
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Georg> 2) Backporting is work, not fun, therefore people tend to not
Georg> do it. In fact, 1.4 and 1.5 are not too different in many areas
Georg> of the code. Nevertheless Jean-Marc had to explicitly ask to
Georg> backport some fixes of 1.5 to 1.4. Just look at his
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
"Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Enrico> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Enrico> wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I think this works well with a big team, but this is not the case
here. Already setting up the schedule takes too much time on our
meager development forces.
I think so, too. Remember that only a handful of people are actually working
on
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I think this works well with a big team, but this is not the case
here. Already setting up the schedule takes too much time on our
meager development forces.
I think so, too. Remember that only a handful of people are actually working
on
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> IMO a good prove that the current strategy works is the actual
>> series. 1.4.0 was released with lots of bugs and flaws. Now look at
>> 1.4.4svn: It's still not perfect, but it stabilized significantly
>> (with any minor
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> By the way, I think you're the perfect candidate for the stable branch
> Jurgen ;-)
No, I don't think so. My coding skills are too limited to do this job.
> If not you, then that would probably be Jose or Georg. Maybe even
> Michael... We are not short of talents here
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Well, I don't want to diminish JMarc role which was really great but
> 1.4svn is also stabilizing a lot because most of the bugs were solved
> first in 1.5svn.
Sure. But also vice versa (most bug reports we get are for the stable series,
since this is what people
On Monday 22 January 2007 10:32:22 am Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> This sounded very much like funeral speech indeed :-)
What?
A prosperous project is one where people don't stay fixed in their
positions. The analogy with the indoor bike racing where all team members
rotate in the lead is
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
By the way, I think you're the perfect candidate for the stable branch
Jurgen ;-)
No, I don't think so. My coding skills are too limited to do this job.
Please don't underestimate yourself. I think you're good enough.
If not you, then
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> That said, exactly because of his great coding skills it might be better
> if he concentrates on the development branch. But who am I to distribute
> tasks anyway? :-)
Let's see who's going to stand for it. I'm looking forward to some flaming
election speeches and
José Matos wrote:
On Monday 22 January 2007 10:32:22 am Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
This sounded very much like funeral speech indeed :-)
What?
A prosperous project is one where people don't stay fixed in their
positions. The analogy with the indoor bike racing where all team members
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jürgen> Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>> By the way, I think you're the perfect candidate for the stable
>> branch Jurgen ;-)
Jürgen> No, I don't think so. My coding skills are too limited to do
Jürgen> this job.
I do not think so.
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> José Matos wrote:
>> On Monday 22 January 2007 10:32:22 am Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>>> This sounded very much like funeral speech indeed :-)
>> What?
>>
>> A prosperous project is one where people don't stay fixed
On Monday 22 January 2007 11:24:24 am Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> It is to make other people forget about the overdue beta version :)
I am working on it. :-)
> JMarc, who should be preparing for 1.4.4 instead.
And I still have one patch commit to do there (already approved by you).
--
On Monday 22 January 2007 11:04:41 am Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Let's see who's going to stand for it. I'm looking forward to some flaming
> election speeches and exposing private videos on youtube ;-)
You have my vote. :-)
Now, who should I bash? ;-)
> Jürgen
--
José Abílio
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
That said, exactly because of his great coding skills it might be better
if he concentrates on the development branch. But who am I to distribute
tasks anyway? :-)
Let's see who's going to stand for it. I'm looking
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>> By the way, I think you're the perfect candidate for the stable branch
>> Jurgen ;-)
>
> No, I don't think so. My coding skills are too limited to do this job.
I don't think so. And even if you would hit problems you could always ask
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll continue
with 1.4, I think). Maybe José?
Ideally, the stable branch maintainer should be of the
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll continue
with 1.4, I think). Maybe José?
I knew it! I can read your
Abdelrazak == Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Abdelrazak Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be
glad to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5.
Which means that you did this for over 6 years. I think we all owe you a big
thank you. I know that this job can be very hard, especially if people want
some new features or bug fixes,
Georg Baum wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5.
Which means that you did this for over 6 years. I think we all owe you a
big thank you.
Indeed. And I think you did this job impressively well.
Jürgen
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll continue
with 1.4, I think). Maybe José?
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll continue
with 1.4, I
Peter Kümmel wrote:
I don't know what's the best way to go, but we could start a new
endless discussion. (Have you registered that there wasn't such a
beast within the last months? There was more coding than
discussing. LyX is changing.)
Maybe have a schedule like KDE. You have a wiki
Enrico Forestieri wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll continue
with 1.4, I think). Maybe José?
Ideally, the stable branch maintainer should be of the
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll continue
with 1.4, I think). Maybe José?
I knew it! I can read your
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
>> admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be
>> glad to find someone to take this role from
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5.
Which means that you did this for over 6 years. I think we all owe you a big
thank you. I know that this job can be very hard, especially if people want
some new features or bug
Georg Baum wrote:
> >> I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5.
>
> Which means that you did this for over 6 years. I think we all owe you a
> big thank you.
Indeed. And I think you did this job impressively well.
Jürgen
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
>> admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
>> to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll continue
>> with 1.4, I think). Maybe
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
> admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
> to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll continue
> with 1.4, I
Peter Kümmel wrote:
>
> I don't know what's the best way to go, but we could start a new
> endless discussion. (Have you registered that there wasn't such a
> beast within the last months? There was more coding than
> discussing. LyX is changing.)
Maybe have a schedule like KDE. You have a
Enrico Forestieri wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:11:13PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
I have been maintaining stable branches since LyX 1.1.5. I have to
admit that the fun part of it has vanished. Therefore I would be glad
to find someone to take this role from 1.5.1 onwards (I'll
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