Quoting Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Abdelrazak == Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Abdelrazak I guess that would be a no from JMarc and Lars so let's
Abdelrazak just forget about this thread. Sorry for the noise.
Hey! You did not give me a chance to say no by myself!
Quoting Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Abdelrazak> I guess that would be a "no" from JMarc and Lars so let's
> Abdelrazak> just forget about this thread. Sorry for the noise.
>
> Hey! You did not give me a chance
Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
|
| Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt
| to autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue.
| People are just afraid of potential bad thing that
Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| Georg Baum a écrit :
| Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 11:39 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
| First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
|
| Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here
| wrt to autotools. I believe it is
Lars Gullik Bjønnes a écrit :
Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
|
| Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt
| to autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue.
| People are just
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
It is already generating it my friend. I was trying to improve the
present build system which is close to sxxxt as far as I am concerned
with windows. You say you are caring about portability across old Unix
and other exotic system but I reckon there are *much* more
Joost Verburg wrote:
A good scons system will make it possible to compile using MinGW,
Microsoft C++, Borland or whatever using the same scripts.
Joost
I'm not a developper and incapable of having a real technical opinion. But
why not wait until KDE finishes its transition to CMake. I guess
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:30:06AM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
It is already generating it my friend. I was trying to improve the
present build system which is close to sxxxt as far as I am concerned
with windows. You say you are caring about portability across
On Sat, 6 May 2006, Georg Baum wrote:
I am historic? Not at all (or you will be historic in next year, too).
While doing my PhD, I think it was my professor who said that you become
an export on a (minor) topic in six months. So becoming historic in a year
sounds about right to me :-)
/C
--
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
|
| Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt
| to autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue.
| People are just afraid of potential bad thing
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Georg Baum a écrit :
| > Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 11:39 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
| >> First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
| >>
| >> Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here
| >> wrt to autotools. I
Lars Gullik Bjønnes a écrit :
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
|
| Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt
| to autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue.
| People are just
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
It is already generating it my friend. I was trying to improve the
present build system which is close to sxxxt as far as I am concerned
with windows. You say you are caring about portability across old Unix
and other exotic system but I reckon there are *much* more
Joost Verburg wrote:
> A good scons system will make it possible to compile using MinGW,
> Microsoft C++, Borland or whatever using the same scripts.
>
> Joost
I'm not a developper and incapable of having a real technical opinion. But
why not wait until KDE finishes its transition to CMake. I
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:30:06AM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote:
> Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> > It is already generating it my friend. I was trying to improve the
> > present build system which is close to sxxxt as far as I am concerned
> > with windows. You say you are caring about portability
On Sat, 6 May 2006, Georg Baum wrote:
> I am historic? Not at all (or you will be historic in next year, too).
While doing my PhD, I think it was my professor who said that you become
an export on a (minor) topic in six months. So becoming historic in a year
sounds about right to me :-)
/C
--
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Well, I've lost some battles in LyX development already. The problem is
that most of the changes I envision would need full support of
maintainers so I loose. My available time is not much so I can't afford
to spend time on things that will not be accepted. I have the
Angus Leeming a écrit :
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Well, I've lost some battles in LyX development already. The problem is
that most of the changes I envision would need full support of
maintainers so I loose. My available time is not much so I can't afford
to spend time on things that will not
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Well, I've lost some battles in LyX development already. The problem is
> that most of the changes I envision would need full support of
> maintainers so I loose. My available time is not much so I can't afford
> to spend time on things that will not be accepted. I have
Angus Leeming a écrit :
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Well, I've lost some battles in LyX development already. The problem is
that most of the changes I envision would need full support of
maintainers so I loose. My available time is not much so I can't afford
to spend time on things that will not
First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt to
autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue. People
are just afraid of potential bad thing that could happen if we touch the
build system.
I
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:39:37AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt to
autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue. People
are just afraid of
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
I would like to propose a simpler way forward.
1) move non lyx core source code that depend on config.h defined
macro to src/support/: mainly gettex.[Ch] and messages.[Ch]
2) make src/support/ a real library with its own autotools machinery.
This library could be code
Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 11:39 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt to
autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue. People
are just afraid of potential bad
Georg Baum a écrit :
Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 11:39 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt to
autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue. People
are just afraid
Michael Gerz a écrit :
However: If you touch the auto* stuff beware that this will delay 1.5.0
for months with little benefit for the end user!!!
1.5.0 is not going to happen soon anyway Michael.
Abdel, if I remember correctly, you want to release 1.5.0 rather sooner
than later because of
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
It is not friday so no need to argue for days. A simple yes or no from
main historic devels should be enough.
Lars:
JMarc:
Georg:
Martin:
Juergen:
I don't think you mean Jürgen Vigna, who is a real historic devel, contrary to
me. For my part, I'd leave the
Juergen Spitzmueller a écrit :
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
It is not friday so no need to argue for days. A simple yes or no from
main historic devels should be enough.
Lars:
JMarc:
Georg:
Martin:
Juergen:
I don't think you mean Jürgen Vigna, who is a real historic devel, contrary to
me. For my
On Saturday 06 May 2006 14:54, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
I guess that would be a no from JMarc and Lars so let's just forget
about this thread. Sorry for the noise.
Since it looks that as I am getting old I am getting a bit wiser let me tell
an history of persistence and success (I hope).
Jose' Matos a écrit :
On Saturday 06 May 2006 14:54, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
I guess that would be a no from JMarc and Lars so let's just forget
about this thread. Sorry for the noise.
[wise word from an old man]
Moral of the story: If you believe in something fight for it and choose your
First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt to
autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue. People
are just afraid of potential bad thing that could happen if we touch the
build system.
I
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:39:37AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
>
> Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt to
> autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue. People
> are just afraid of
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
I would like to propose a simpler way forward.
1) move non lyx core source code that depend on "config.h" defined
macro to "src/support/": mainly gettex.[Ch] and messages.[Ch]
2) make src/support/ a real library with its own autotools machinery.
This library could be
Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 11:39 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
> First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
>
> Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt to
> autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue. People
> are just afraid of potential
Georg Baum a écrit :
Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 11:39 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes:
First thanks to JMarc and Georg for a great Friday :-)
Angus rightfully warned me that I will face great resistance here wrt to
autotools. I believe it is more inertia than a religious issue. People
are just afraid
Michael Gerz a écrit :
However: If you touch the auto* stuff beware that this will delay 1.5.0
for months with little benefit for the end user!!!
1.5.0 is not going to happen soon anyway Michael.
Abdel, if I remember correctly, you want to release 1.5.0 rather sooner
than later because of
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> It is not friday so no need to argue for days. A simple yes or no from
> main historic devels should be enough.
> Lars:
> JMarc:
> Georg:
> Martin:
> Juergen:
I don't think you mean Jürgen Vigna, who is a real historic devel, contrary to
me. For my part, I'd leave the
Juergen Spitzmueller a écrit :
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
It is not friday so no need to argue for days. A simple yes or no from
main historic devels should be enough.
Lars:
JMarc:
Georg:
Martin:
Juergen:
I don't think you mean Jürgen Vigna, who is a real historic devel, contrary to
me. For my
On Saturday 06 May 2006 14:54, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> I guess that would be a "no" from JMarc and Lars so let's just forget
> about this thread. Sorry for the noise.
Since it looks that as I am getting old I am getting a bit wiser let me tell
an history of persistence and success (I hope).
Jose' Matos a écrit :
On Saturday 06 May 2006 14:54, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
I guess that would be a "no" from JMarc and Lars so let's just forget
about this thread. Sorry for the noise.
[wise word from an old man]
Moral of the story: If you believe in something fight for it and choose
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