Le 11/06/2024 à 14:20, Kornel Benko a écrit :
José, I got this as answer of my email to you:
From: Mail Delivery System
To: kor...@lyx.org
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 13:07:40 +0200
Hi Kornel,
Currently, gmail rejects all messages from
José, I got this as answer of my email to you:
From: Mail Delivery System
To: kor...@lyx.org
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 13:07:40 +0200
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 01:58:57PM -0700, Nathan Blodgett wrote:
> would you like to maintain this at pacstall-programs, or use your own repo if
> you want.
Generally we don't do distros package maintenance and I would be very surprised
if
someone from this list jumped for maintenance on even sm
Scott Kostyshak writes:
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 11:49:19AM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote:
>> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> > When I'm reading email in mutt, all I do is press a shortcut (I use [ma for
>> > "mail archive"), and it copies the above link to my cl
>
> Similarly, there's prefixes like LyxDevelPost and LyxUsersPost which
> were used to refer to gmane.org. Unfortunately gmane.org doesn't seem
> to contain the LyX lists anymore :-(
>
> I just now tested repointing the prefix "LyxDevelPost" from gmane.
in the ID.
But at least I think it could be converted automatically, if that mail
archiver disappeared. So even if it is not user-friendly, it could
potentially stand the test of time.
> Note: In gmail I can see the message ID by looking at the original message,
> which I do by clicking
fortunately gmane.org doesn't seem to
> contain
> > the LyX lists anymore :-(
> >
> > I just now tested repointing the prefix "LyxDevelPost" from gmane.org to
> > mail-archive.com, so e.g.this currently works: LyxDevelPost:200333
> >
> >
On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 11:49:19AM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > When I'm reading email in mutt, all I do is press a shortcut (I use [ma for
> > "mail archive"), and it copies the above link to my clipboard so I can paste
> > it in my em
Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> When I'm reading email in mutt, all I do is press a shortcut (I use [ma for
> "mail archive"), and it copies the above link to my clipboard so I can paste
> it in my email (or on trac). If anyone is using mutt, let met know if you
> want the
o this link
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10481.
>
> Similarly, there's prefixes like LyxDevelPost and LyxUsersPost which were
> used to refer to gmane.org. Unfortunately gmane.org doesn't seem to contain
> the LyX lists anymore :-(
>
> I just now tested repointin
which were
used to refer to gmane.org. Unfortunately gmane.org doesn't seem to contain
the LyX lists anymore :-(
I just now tested repointing the prefix "LyxDevelPost" from gmane.org to
mail-archive.com, so e.g.this currently works: LyxDevelPost:200333
There's a problem thoug
es previously.
>
> I check anyway on trac that the commit has been correctly pushed in when I do
> not get the feedback from cvs, but it is a bit boring that commits come in
> without the maintainer being warned.
>
> If there is really a limit, it should be better to truncate the
ainer being warned.
If there is really a limit, it should be better to truncate the cvs mail when it
is too big, just to let people know that there has been a commit.
--
Jean-Pierre
Le 10/03/2017 à 10:02, Kornel Benko a écrit :
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2017 um 18:18:38, schrieb Pavel Sanda
IIRC we have some maximal size of mails which can get through our conferences.
Esp. with po/gmo changes those limits will be hit.
Pavel
Maybe, but consider that gmo-changes are not se
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2017 um 18:18:38, schrieb Pavel Sanda
> Richard Heck wrote:
> > >> No. It may be that you are not whitelisted for posting to lyx-cvs.
> > >
> > > There have been posts from j...@lyx.org last month on lyx-cvs.
> >
> > Mystery, then.
>
> IIRC we have some maximal size of mai
Richard Heck wrote:
> >> No. It may be that you are not whitelisted for posting to lyx-cvs.
> >
> > There have been posts from j...@lyx.org last month on lyx-cvs.
>
> Mystery, then.
IIRC we have some maximal size of mails which can get through our conferences.
Esp. with po/gmo changes those limit
On 03/09/2017 03:41 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 09/03/17 à 19:26, Richard Heck a écrit :
>> On 03/09/2017 09:47 AM, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:
>>> Dear developers,
>>>
>>> I have pushed an update of fr.po and fr.gmo on master 9 days ago at
>>> 7ca89e49, I did not see an acknowledgement on
Le 09/03/17 à 19:26, Richard Heck a écrit :
On 03/09/2017 09:47 AM, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:
Dear developers,
I have pushed an update of fr.po and fr.gmo on master 9 days ago at
7ca89e49, I did not see an acknowledgement on lyx-devel as usual.
Is this a normal behaviour ?
No. It may be tha
On 03/09/2017 09:47 AM, Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> I have pushed an update of fr.po and fr.gmo on master 9 days ago at
> 7ca89e49, I did not see an acknowledgement on lyx-devel as usual.
> Is this a normal behaviour ?
No. It may be that you are not whitelisted for posting t
Dear developers,
I have pushed an update of fr.po and fr.gmo on master 9 days ago at
7ca89e49, I did not see an acknowledgement on lyx-devel as usual.
Is this a normal behaviour ?
--
Jean-Pierre
On 19 January 2017 at 23:58, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Christian Ridderström wrote:
> > When a CI job is using e-mail notifications, there's an option to in
> > addition to e-mailing the devel-list, also e-mail individuals who
> recently
> > committed. Do we want that?
&
Christian Ridderström wrote:
> When a CI job is using e-mail notifications, there's an option to in
> addition to e-mailing the devel-list, also e-mail individuals who recently
> committed. Do we want that?
I think it's better to use only lyx-devel and let people sort it o
Hi,
When a CI job is using e-mail notifications, there's an option to in
addition to e-mailing the devel-list, also e-mail individuals who recently
committed. Do we want that?
Note: The CI server will extract the e-mail addresses of the individiuals
from the Git commits.
/Christian
PS.
H
Le 19/02/15 01:36, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
I notice that when I write a mail to po-updates I don't get the mails
forwarded. Could someone please have a look if am still subscribed to
get these mails?
Hi Uwe,
I do not know whether this problem is fixed for you, but in any case
your addre
I notice that when I write a mail to po-updates I don't get the mails
forwarded. Could someone please have a look if am still subscribed to
get these mails?
thanks and regards
Uwe
Am 11.04.2014 08:46, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:
At first sorry for CCing that to the devel list, but I am again close to explode and need to come to
an end.
Please.. try to work with us, do not always stick to and repeat your
own insights and don't always give us the impression that you
On 05/31/2012 04:40 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
Op 31-5-2012 22:08, Richard Heck schreef:
Anyone know how to do that?
Richard
Log onto mail.lyx.org -> Options -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP -> Forwarding
thanks.
rh
Richard Heck wrote:
> Anyone know how to do that?
if you still remember your credits, go to mail.lyx.org. p
Op 31-5-2012 22:08, Richard Heck schreef:
Anyone know how to do that?
Richard
Log onto mail.lyx.org -> Options -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP -> Forwarding
Vincent
Anyone know how to do that?
Richard
Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
Currently, I'm only receiving replies, but not my own posts.
>>> this should be default. are you sure the problem is not on your side?
>> this == receiving own posts
> +/-, it happened like this:
what about subscribing with the old address and only setup your From:
to
Il 17/03/2011 23:42, Pavel Sanda ha scritto:
Pavel Sanda wrote:
Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
Is there a way by which I can have (again) my e-mail messages to the lyx
lists delivered to me ?
Currently, I'm only receiving replies, but not my own posts.
this should be default. are you sur
Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
> > Is there a way by which I can have (again) my e-mail messages to the lyx
> > lists delivered to me ?
> > Currently, I'm only receiving replies, but not my own posts.
>
> this should be default. are you sure the pr
Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
> Is there a way by which I can have (again) my e-mail messages to the lyx
> lists delivered to me ?
> Currently, I'm only receiving replies, but not my own posts.
this should be default. are you sure the problem is not on your side?
if i look on the r
Is there a way by which I can have (again) my e-mail messages to the lyx
lists delivered to me ?
Currently, I'm only receiving replies, but not my own posts.
T.
[apologies]
Richard Heck wrote:
> someone check if messages are being returned and,
looking at marc i can't see any lost messages here, so the
problem is most probably not with the lists...
>if so, send me one with
> the header?
sent privately.
pavel
I'm not getting any mail from the lists. I can see the messages on marc,
but they are not coming through to me. Anyone have any idea why not? Can
someone check if messages are being returned and, if so, send me one
with the header?
Thanks,
Richard
> Dear Lyx-Developer-Team,
>
> Tue, 30 Mar I wrote an e-mail with questions to you. You published this
> e-mail in the web and now my
> name is linked to this mail which includes my full name. Furthermore, it is
> possible to get my e-mail adress in conjunction with t
Dear Lyx-Developer-Team,
Tue, 30 Mar I wrote an e-mail with questions to you. You published this e-mail
in the web and now my
name is linked to this mail which includes my full name. Furthermore, it is
possible to get my e-mail adress in conjunction with this link e.g. when
somebody enters my
e comfortable, although I have noticed that some
messages appeared much earlier at the mail-archive than at gmane.
Are just have problems with directly posting to gmane.editors.lyx.devel.
This message is now copy-pasted in a mail to lyx-devel. Hope my trials
didn't produce annoying repeated postings...
- Sebastian
On 07/11/2009 18:26, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> If I want to reply to a message in the mail-archive and click on
> "reply via email to ", then only the email-address of the
author
> is taken to the reply email, but neither the original message nor the
> Subject-line nor the lyx-d
> If I want to reply to a message in the mail-archive and click on
> "reply via email to ", then only the email-address of the author
> is taken to the reply email, but neither the original message nor the
> Subject-line nor the lyx-devel email-address are included.
At first sight, gmame looks even worse to me than
> mail-archive.
from what i remember Abdel was using gmane and it worked better regarding
the email header issues.
> And is it true that everybody (at least among the developers) prefers no
> to have a Cc to his email-adress? So I shou
Pavel wrote:
> i wouldn't advise to use mail-archive. firstly it eats some mails into the
> void
> from time to time, secondly it has sometimes big latencies for showing new
> mails, thirdly it doesn't work properly with mail headers as far as
> conferences
>
Sebastian Guttenberg wrote:
> If I want to reply to a message in the mail-archive and click on
> "reply via email to ", then only the email-adress of the author
> is taken to the reply email, but neither the original message nor the
> Subject-line nor the lyx-devel email-a
If I want to reply to a message in the mail-archive and click on
"reply via email to ", then only the email-adress of the author
is taken to the reply email, but neither the original message nor the
Subject-line nor the lyx-devel email-address are included. I find it
quite time-co
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
All mail to lyx.org (not lists.lyx.org) is not handled by google.
Let's see how this works out...
At least I am receiving my mails so it seems to work just fine. Good job
Lars.
Abdel.
Vincent van Ravesteijn
writes:
| Lars Gullik Bjønnes schreef:
>> All mail to lyx.org (not lists.lyx.org) is not handled by google.
>>
>> Let's see how this works out...
>>
>>
| Hmm.. _not_ handled by google... ???
Wonder why I always get that wrong...
...is NOW handled by...
--
Lgb
Lars Gullik Bjønnes schreef:
All mail to lyx.org (not lists.lyx.org) is not handled by google.
Let's see how this works out...
Hmm.. _not_ handled by google... ???
Vincent
All mail to lyx.org (not lists.lyx.org) is not handled by google.
Let's see how this works out...
--
Lgb
lly? I remember very well that It was not the case when I first used
bugzilla. Maybe because I didn't have the necessary rights, dunno.
But if you do that, please, be careful
to edit your answer. Buzilla entries with mail-cruft are a real pain.
Sure.
Abdel.
careful
to edit your answer. Buzilla entries with mail-cruft are a real pain.
JMarc
For information: considering that the messages were just sitting there
using 30M+ of disk space for nothing, I disabled mail delivery of
cvs-log for the mailboxes that are clearly not used. The mails have
been moved to the homedirs of the respective users.
The users concerned are: uwestoehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I wasn't subscribed to LyX.cvs before, my commit messages were not
posted automatically to that list. As I've quickly gotten tired of all
the LyX.cvs email I'm now reading the posts through gmane.
My question is if I can unsubscribe to LyX.cvs without losing the
When I wasn't subscribed to LyX.cvs before, my commit messages were not
posted automatically to that list. As I've quickly gotten tired of all the
LyX.cvs email I'm now reading the posts through gmane.
My question is if I can unsubscribe to LyX.cvs without losing the function
that my commit me
Hi, is anyone else's mail being eaten?
All the mail I send from my mccabedj account at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au just
disappears if I send it to any of:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe
lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org to unsubscribe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for a help message
If this mail gets though, what
ncing:
Michael Gerz wrote:
Hello,
someone else should try to contact him...
Michael
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Hello,
someone else should try to contact him...
Michael
Mail Delivery System schrieb:
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Joost, your SF account seems to be overly sensitive when it comes to
identification of spam:
- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:16:17 +0100
From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
S
: not enough time.
Georg
Thanks for your replies, all i wanted to know is if the mail and
attachment arrived at the list.
bernhard
José Matos wrote:
> I did so I suppose the list got it. Certainly we are interested, I was
> expecting someone more knowledge to answer (Hello Georg, or Angus). :-)
I got it, too, so the list definitely received it. I have not yet answered
for the very same reason: not enough time.
Georg
On Thursday 02 November 2006 8:56 pm, Bernhard Roider wrote:
> hello!
Hello,
> two days ago i wrote a mail to the list with subject "svg4lyx" and i got
> it via the list, but it doesn't show up in the list archive and nobody
> answered to it. So i thought that maybe
hello!
two days ago i wrote a mail to the list with subject "svg4lyx" and i got
it via the list, but it doesn't show up in the list archive and nobody
answered to it. So i thought that maybe there was a problem because of
the size of the mail (it contained some attached files)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| Hi there,
| could you please delete the following two entries:
| www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg29149.html
| www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg29027.html
| because they are very old and contain personal data I don't want to
| distribute.
Hi there,
could you please delete the following two entries:
www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg29149.html
www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg29027.html
because they are very old and contain personal data I
don't want to distribute.
--
Viele Grüße
Hartmut
ld airport, so if anybody of you happens to be in the area,
feel free to drop in. Details on request in private mail.
Asger Ottar Alstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've changed jobs (see http://www.area9.dk)
It seems a little excessive to insist on Flash for a text only page...
Angus
Hi,
I've changed jobs (see http://www.area9.dk) and therefore e-mails. You
can reach me on these addresses now:
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So when is 1.4.0 coming?
Regards,
Asger Ottar Alstrup
Sorry!! This account was closed bcause of too much spam mail.
To get our new e-mail address please visit our WEB site or phone me (243411).
Thank you.
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> | AFAICS the email notification of bugzilla is still broken. Who is
> | maintaining the bugzilla server?
> Noone really... (or me)
> If you can tell me what is wrong I can fix it.
Hi, Lars.
AFAICT, we have the following problems:
* www.devel.lyx.org is dead. That's
Michael Gerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Hello,
|
| AFAICS the email notification of bugzilla is still broken. Who is
| maintaining the bugzilla server?
Noone really... (or me)
If you can tell me what is wrong I can fix it.
Hello,
AFAICS the email notification of bugzilla is still broken. Who is
maintaining the bugzilla server?
Michael
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
| Angus> Does the dissappearence of the www.via.ecp.fr archive mean that
| Angus> all messages prior to May 1997 are now lost?
>
| Probably. The old list was lyx@via.ecp.fr, so it is not
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Angus> Does the dissappearence of the www.via.ecp.fr archive mean that
Angus> all messages prior to May 1997 are now lost?
Probably. The old list was lyx@via.ecp.fr, so it is not likely on
these archives. I tried to send a message to peop
I see that the "old archive" of lyx-devel,
http://www.via.ecp.fr/lyx/archive/, no longer exists. I'll remove mention
of it from http://www.user.lyx/internet/mailing.php3.
Unfortunately, we have a whole host of references to messages in this
archive in the news articles. Urg.
Incidentally, I had a
I have just changed the mailserver for lyx.org from baywatch to
aussie.
Please tell if you expect problems.
(I know of some hickups with [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'll fix that)
--
Lgb
I am going to move the mailserver from baywatch to aussie, this might
cause some minor problems.
Main reason for doing this is to be able to use newer mailman and spam
checkers.
Note: None of the mailing lists on lists.lyx.org will be affected.
I am not quite sure when I will do this, most lik
>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> I remember reading a mail yesterday in which Jean-Marc(?) was
Andre> asking for a virtual nod for an obvious bugfix. Currently I am
Andre> (due to some wierd setup) able to read but not t
I remember reading a mail yesterday in which Jean-Marc(?) was asking for
a virtual nod for an obvious bugfix. Currently I am (due to some wierd
setup) able to read but not to write mail regularly. So please don't
_wait_ for a reaction from me, especially for bug fixes.
Andre'
Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:19:57PM +, Angus Leeming wrote:
>> Did anything come of this?
>
> Nothing I am aware of, but I cant' read the attachment (is this base
> 64?)
mime type: message/rfc822
Use mimencode to manipulate it.
--
Angus
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:19:57PM +, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Did anything come of this?
Nothing I am aware of, but I cant' read the attachment (is this base 64?)
Andre'
--
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have,
nor do they deserve, either one. (T.
John Levon wrote:
>> Did anything come of this?
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel&m=105543142806579&w=2
Cheers, John!
--
Angus
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:19:57PM +, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Did anything come of this?
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel&m=105543142806579&w=2
john
--
Khendon's Law:
If the same point is made twice by the same person, the thread is over.
Did anything come of this?
--
Angus--- Begin Message ---
Hello!
I've made some improvements to the procedure of symbol font loading in
the qt frontend. Now it uses QFontInfo mechanism recommended by Qt
developers and works under Qt 3.1.1 / RH9. Also I have made a TTF
wasy10 font, which can be in
I'm just checking the latency...
Michael
Hey guys,
I've just fixed Bugzilla's mail parameters. Hopefully mail should be
working now. If you make any changes and don't receive an e-mail
(assuming you haven't set your preferences to not send e-mail) let me know.
I'll be back in town on the weekend and I&#
VFPODBC.TXT
Description: Binary data
** Message from InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT **
** WARNING! Attached file code,.pif contains:
WORM_KLEZ.G virus
Attempted to clean the file but it is not cleanable.
It has been deleted.
* End of message ***
"R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| and watch the result.
| Somehow, the executable can detect who has called, either gracebat
| or xmgrace!
int main(int argc, char * argv[]) {
printf("%s\n", argv[0]);
}
compile and test with link and without.
--
Lgb
Herbert Voss wrote:
>
> R. Lahaye wrote:
>
> >>Rob, I did not yet apply your grace patch, because I was wary of running
> >>xmgrace. Are you sure it runs without an X server available? This is very
> >>important for us, and I do not have access to it.
> >>
> >
> > Ah, didn't know that.
> > Indee
R. Lahaye wrote:
>>Rob, I did not yet apply your grace patch, because I was wary of running
>>xmgrace. Are you sure it runs without an X server available? This is very
>>important for us, and I do not have access to it.
>>
>
> Ah, didn't know that.
> Indeed, "xmgrace" always needs an X server,
> > Rob, I did not yet apply your grace patch, because I was
> wary of running
> > xmgrace. Are you sure it runs without an X server
> available? This is very
> > important for us, and I do not have access to it.
>
> Ah, didn't know that.
> Indeed, "xmgrace" always needs an X server, but Grace
> Rob, I did not yet apply your grace patch, because I was wary of running
> xmgrace. Are you sure it runs without an X server available? This is very
> important for us, and I do not have access to it.
Ah, didn't know that.
Indeed, "xmgrace" always needs an X server, but Grace also comes
with "
> I'll attach you the file I have not enough karma to commit it myself.
>
> Please have a look and see that you're not able to "LaTeX" the file
> because of errors in 2 points of the document. One is a "\t o" and
> the other is a "french caron" in the dead-key section. I don't know
> enough to fi
Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On 24-Apr-2002 Juergen Vigna wrote:
>
>> I'll attach you the file I have not enough karma to commit it myself.
>
| Umm, sorry I should have send a patch!
Or compressed it...
--
Lgb
On 24-Apr-2002 Juergen Vigna wrote:
> I'll attach you the file I have not enough karma to commit it myself.
Umm, sorry I should have send a patch!
Jug
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[Sorry for the bad wrapping, bug I am in ms-outlook-land here.]
> Well all the ones I can think of. The patch you examined had
> one bug that led
> to a crash (invalid iterator) and could not deal with natbib
> when using the
> bibliography environment, only with BibTeX. Both have been
> fix
On 24-Apr-2002 Lasgouttes, J.M. wrote:
> Juergen, I see you did not fix it_Customization.lyx. COuld you do it?
Yes I will have a look!
Jug
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Dr. Jürgen Vigna E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Italienallee 1
ut this. Herbert and I have been posting improvements to and
fro. Nearly there.
> Please keep me in cc: of this message. I hope my e-mail will return to
> normal later this day.
>
> JMarc
>
> PS: and the screen of my laptop is beginning to flickr madly. I feel the
> end o
Hi there,
I have problems currently with my e-mail account (thus I use another one
for this message) and get messages with a lag of at least 15h!
A few comments about Angus citation patch: first, I guess that some of the
parts are not really supposed to go in (workaround for istringstream
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