Re: request to remove 2 template files

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: So latex8 can go. Probably should just leave them in branch, I think. Just in case. In this case I want to remove them from branch too. Both template files are since years obsolete and only lead to confusions. (Like I was

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > So latex8 can go. > >>> Probably should just leave them in branch, I think. Just in case. > > In this case I want to remove them from branch too. Both template files are > since years obsolete and only lead to confusions. (Like

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/16/2011 08:39 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 16.06.2011 14:59, schrieb Richard Heck: OK, that was my question. Please remove them from branch. Done. Btw. r39116 is also needed for branch. OK. Please add it. rh

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 17.06.2011 14:15, schrieb Richard Heck: Btw. r39116 is also needed for branch. OK. Please add it. Done. regards Uwe

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/16/2011 08:39 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 16.06.2011 14:59, schrieb Richard Heck: > >> OK, that was my question. Please remove them from branch. > > Done. > > Btw. r39116 is also needed for branch. > OK. Please add it. rh

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 17.06.2011 14:15, schrieb Richard Heck: >>Btw. r39116 is also needed for branch. > OK. Please add it. Done. regards Uwe

Re: request to remove 2 template files

The point is that you CANNOT us the templates because the required LaTeX classes are obsolete and thus even not available at CTAN. Moreover, even if you find them somewhere in the web, what can you do with your file - nothing! No journal will accept this. Note that template files are thought

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 08:05, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: The point is that you CANNOT us the templates because the required LaTeX classes are obsolete and thus even not available at CTAN. Moreover, even if you find them somewhere in the web, what can you do with your file - nothing! No journal will

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: Am 16.06.2011 08:05, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: The point is that you CANNOT us the templates because the required LaTeX classes are obsolete and thus even not available at CTAN. Moreover, even if you find them

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/15/2011 10:54 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 16.06.2011 00:09, schrieb Richard Heck: I don't want some person who's still using these to lose them because they upgrade within 2.0.x. Are they unusable because they won't compile, or...? The point is that you CANNOT us the templates because

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/16/2011 08:59 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 06/15/2011 10:54 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 16.06.2011 00:09, schrieb Richard Heck: I don't want some person who's still using these to lose them because they upgrade within 2.0.x. Are they unusable because they won't compile, or...? The point is

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 14:44, schrieb Rainer M Krug: Are these templates or layout files? Templates. We don't remove layout files. If they are templates, they can go, as users can base new documents on older documents they have used - if they are layout files, they should stay, to further be able to

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 15:12, schrieb Uwe Stöhr: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/39086 Richard, OK also for branch? Stupid me, I accidentally put it in branch. OK, or shall I revert? sorry Uwe

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/16/2011 09:14 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 16.06.2011 15:12, schrieb Uwe Stöhr: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/39086 Richard, OK also for branch? Stupid me, I accidentally put it in branch. OK, or shall I revert? I think it's OK, though I tweaked the message. That said: Are these

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Are these translated? Nope. Jürgen

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 15/06/2011 10:31 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: We offer the two template files revtex and latex8. The one for revtex is a template for the obsolete LaTeX-class ReVTeX. Since years journal paper authors have to use ReVTeX 4 and that is why we offer a template file named revtex4.lyx for this class.

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/16/2011 11:39 AM, Julien Rioux wrote: By the way REVTeX 4 is also obsolete and no longer on CTAN; it has been replaced by REVTeX 4.1 for which I suggested a patch a while ago, including new template files. Is this a good time to put this in? I'd ask you wait until 2.0.2, as I've just

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 17:39, schrieb Julien Rioux: By the way REVTeX 4 is also obsolete and no longer on CTAN; It is obsolete too, yes. But it is still on CTAN and 4.1 is backwards compatible with 4.0. So until we provide support for 4.1, people can start with the template for 4.0 and upgrade/modify

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 14:59, schrieb Richard Heck: OK, that was my question. Please remove them from branch. Done. Btw. r39116 is also needed for branch. regards Uwe

Re: request to remove 2 template files

The point is that you CANNOT us the templates because the required LaTeX classes are obsolete and thus even not available at CTAN. Moreover, even if you find them somewhere in the web, what can you do with your file -> nothing! No journal will accept this. Note that template files are thought

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 08:05, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: The point is that you CANNOT us the templates because the required LaTeX classes are obsolete and thus even not available at CTAN. Moreover, even if you find them somewhere in the web, what can you do with your file -> nothing! No journal

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 16.06.2011 08:05, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > > The point is that you CANNOT us the templates because the required LaTeX >>> classes are obsolete and >>> thus even not available at CTAN. Moreover, even if you find

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/15/2011 10:54 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 16.06.2011 00:09, schrieb Richard Heck: > >> I don't want some person who's still using these to lose them because >> they >> upgrade within 2.0.x. Are they unusable because they won't compile, >> or...? > > The point is that you CANNOT us the

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/16/2011 08:59 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 06/15/2011 10:54 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> Am 16.06.2011 00:09, schrieb Richard Heck: >> >>> I don't want some person who's still using these to lose them because >>> they >>> upgrade within 2.0.x. Are they unusable because they won't compile, >>>

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 14:44, schrieb Rainer M Krug: Are these templates or layout files? Templates. We don't remove layout files. If they are templates, they can go, as users can base new documents on older documents they have used - if they are layout files, they should stay, to further be able to

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 15:12, schrieb Uwe Stöhr: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/39086 Richard, OK also for branch? Stupid me, I accidentally put it in branch. OK, or shall I revert? sorry Uwe

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/16/2011 09:14 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 16.06.2011 15:12, schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > >> http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/39086 >> >> Richard, OK also for branch? > > Stupid me, I accidentally put it in branch. OK, or shall I revert? > I think it's OK, though I tweaked the message. That said: Are

Re: request to remove 2 template files

> Are these translated? Nope. Jürgen

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 15/06/2011 10:31 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: We offer the two template files "revtex" and "latex8". The one for revtex is a template for the obsolete LaTeX-class ReVTeX. Since years journal paper authors have to use ReVTeX 4 and that is why we offer a template file named revtex4.lyx for this class.

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/16/2011 11:39 AM, Julien Rioux wrote: > > By the way REVTeX 4 is also obsolete and no longer on CTAN; it has > been replaced by REVTeX 4.1 for which I suggested a patch a while ago, > including new template files. Is this a good time to put this in? > I'd ask you wait until 2.0.2, as I've

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 17:39, schrieb Julien Rioux: By the way REVTeX 4 is also obsolete and no longer on CTAN; It is obsolete too, yes. But it is still on CTAN and 4.1 is backwards compatible with 4.0. So until we provide support for 4.1, people can start with the template for 4.0 and upgrade/modify

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 14:59, schrieb Richard Heck: OK, that was my question. Please remove them from branch. Done. Btw. r39116 is also needed for branch. regards Uwe

request to remove 2 template files

We offer the two template files revtex and latex8. The one for revtex is a template for the obsolete LaTeX-class ReVTeX. Since years journal paper authors have to use ReVTeX 4 and that is why we offer a template file named revtex4.lyx for this class. Therefore revtex.lyx should be removed -

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Uwe Stöhr wrote: OK to go on? looks fine for trunk. pavel

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/15/2011 12:30 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: OK to go on? looks fine for trunk. Probably should just leave them in branch, I think. Just in case. rh

Re: request to remove 2 template files

I wrote: The one for latex8 is a mystery to me. I now found it: IEEEconf.cls replaces latex8.sty and is compatible with any BibTeX style, not just latex8.bst. (source: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEconf) Btw. IEEEconf is also no official IEEE class file. That's why

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/15/2011 02:56 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Probably should just leave them in branch, I think. Just in case. In this case I want to remove them from branch too. Both template files are since years obsolete and only lead to confusions. (Like I was confused.) Moreover nobody can use them for

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 00:09, schrieb Richard Heck: I guess it just seems odd to remove such files at a point release. In the past we removed obsolete files also for bug fix releases, like in the 1.6.x cycle. I don't want some person who's still using these to lose them because they upgrade within

request to remove 2 template files

We offer the two template files "revtex" and "latex8". The one for revtex is a template for the obsolete LaTeX-class ReVTeX. Since years journal paper authors have to use ReVTeX 4 and that is why we offer a template file named revtex4.lyx for this class. Therefore revtex.lyx should be removed

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Uwe Stöhr wrote: > OK to go on? looks fine for trunk. pavel

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/15/2011 12:30 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> OK to go on? > looks fine for trunk. > Probably should just leave them in branch, I think. Just in case. rh

Re: request to remove 2 template files

I wrote: > The one for latex8 is a mystery to me. I now found it: "IEEEconf.cls replaces latex8.sty and is compatible with any BibTeX style, not just latex8.bst." (source: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEconf) Btw. IEEEconf is also no official IEEE class file. That's

Re: request to remove 2 template files

On 06/15/2011 02:56 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > >>> Probably should just leave them in branch, I think. Just in case. > > In this case I want to remove them from branch too. Both template > files are since years obsolete and only lead to confusions. (Like I > was confused.) Moreover nobody can use them

Re: request to remove 2 template files

Am 16.06.2011 00:09, schrieb Richard Heck: I guess it just seems odd to remove such files at a point release. In the past we removed obsolete files also for bug fix releases, like in the 1.6.x cycle. I don't want some person who's still using these to lose them because they upgrade within