On 03/13/2018 06:13 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
Dear all,
I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the release
of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the
beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer:
The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:21:17PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> I think the dialog is clear enough in what it says, but it leaves unanswered
> the question of whether LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9, or whether it will work
> with an existing installation of an earlier version. One might infer from
> the
On 03/13/2018 07:03 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:21:17PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
I think the dialog is clear enough in what it says, but it leaves unanswered
the question of whether LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9, or whether it will work
with an existing installation of an
Hi Scott,
I think it's a bit wordy
How about:
The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest
2.9
version.
If you use MiKTeX with other applications and do not want
to update
now, or want to perform the update yourself, cancel the LyX
installation.
Ca
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Subject: Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?
Hi Scott,
I think it's a bit wordy
How abo
: RE: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?
My recommendation is to completely remove the LyX capability of updating MikTeX
or switching to MikTeX updater. I always had an issue with this. Instead LyX
can check the version of MikTeX and if it does not fit to certain requirements,
it
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 01:14:00AM +, steve_...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I think it's a bit wordy
>
> How about:
>
> The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest
> 2.9
> version.
>
> If you use MiKTeX with other applications and do not want
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:32:53AM +, Baris Erkus wrote:
> My recommendation is to completely remove the LyX capability of updating
> MikTeX or switching to MikTeX updater. I always had an issue with this.
> Instead LyX can check the version of MikTeX and if it does not fit to certain
> requ
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote:
>
> A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one
> updates MikTeX.
>
> I would find it useful that the dialog makes it possible to start MikTeX
> updating.
If the user clicks on "Continue", then the LyX Ins
Scott Kostyshak :
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote:
>
> A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one
updates MikTeX.
>
> I would find it useful that the dialog makes it possible to start MikTeX
updating.
If the user clicks on "Continue", then
haim.ros...@gmail.com:
How about this:
This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only
earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation
of MikTeX on your system.
And the buttons shall read 'Cancel' and 'Update MikTeX and install LyX' or
'Install Mi
I would say that the only people who would update MiKTeX outside of a Lyx
install are power users.
I would simply state something like:
Lyx requires MikTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X. Chose "Continue" to
automatically update MiKTeX to version X.X or cancel the LyX installation
and update M
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52:46PM +, חיים רוזנר wrote:
> haim.ros...@gmail.com:
>
> How about this:
> This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only
> earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation
> of MikTeX on your system.
> And the butt
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:37:10PM +, חיים רוזנר wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak :
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote:
> >
> > A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one
> updates MikTeX.
> >
> > I would find it useful that the dialog makes it
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 02:58:34PM +, Benedict Holland wrote:
> I would say that the only people who would update MiKTeX outside of a Lyx
> install are power users.
>
> I would simply state something like:
>
> Lyx requires MikTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X. Chose "Continue" to
> automa
What matters most of all is a release. I understand that Windows release has
been held up by extensive discussions over this issue of whether to include a
dialog. This is a minor issue as few people read dialogs. Having a dialog is
fine, and not having a dialog is fine. Not having a version avai
Miktex 2.9 or later is mandatory to compile LyX document but if LyX is used
to simply generate LyX document (or LaTeX document) without compiling it,
we should not forbid this use. So I would suggest to install LyX in all
cases and if need be, to give the choice to the user either to upgrade
hims
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 10:27:25PM +, Charles Roddie wrote:
> What matters most of all is a release. I understand that Windows release has
> been held up by extensive discussions over this issue of whether to include a
> dialog. This is a minor issue as few people read dialogs. Having a dialo
I would be in disagreement with Charles. Lyx has a massive range of users
from latex experts to novices. Power users will be incredibly upset if Lyx
does something that changes a working configuration without notifying them
first. It is even more important to get it right before release since it
af
On 19.03.2018 00:41, emile lunardon wrote:
Miktex 2.9 or later is mandatory to compile LyX document but if LyX is
used to simply generate LyX document (or LaTeX document) without
compiling it, we should not forbid this use. So I would suggest to
install LyX in all cases and if need be, to giv
I don't remember seeing the possibility to install LyX without LaTeX (I'll
have to change my glasses !), but I want to trust you on this point ! In
this case, I would be more than happy to agree with your analysis.
2018-03-19 17:16 GMT+01:00 racoon :
> On 19.03.2018 00:41, emile lunardon wrote:
>
On 19.03.2018 18:14, Emile Lunardon wrote:
I don't remember seeing the possibility to install LyX without LaTeX
(I'll have to change my glasses !), but I want to trust you on this
point ! In this case, I would be more than happy to agree with your
analysis.
I had to check myself to be sure. A
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