Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-25 Thread John Pye
with alpha channel transparency To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:57:10 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi Jean-Pierre, [...] A side

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-25 Thread John Pye
with alpha channel transparency To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:57:10 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi Jean-Pierre, [...] A side

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-25 Thread John Pye
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Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:56:40 +0200 (MEST) From: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:57:10 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Helge Hafting
John Pye wrote: Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Paul Smith
Could somebody please illustrate us about what is alpha-channel transparency? I have searched for it through Google, but found nothing instructive. Paul

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Paul Smith
On 6/22/06, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's when you have 4 channels to describe each color: red, green, blue and alpha. alpha is the opacity. If it's 1.0, then you color will show up just as you expect. If it's zero you can see right through to whatever's behind. Software that supports

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:56:40 +0200 (MEST) From: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:57:10 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Helge Hafting
John Pye wrote: Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Paul Smith
Could somebody please illustrate us about what is alpha-channel transparency? I have searched for it through Google, but found nothing instructive. Paul

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Paul Smith
On 6/22/06, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's when you have 4 channels to describe each color: red, green, blue and alpha. alpha is the opacity. If it's 1.0, then you color will show up just as you expect. If it's zero you can see right through to whatever's behind. Software that supports

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
>>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:56:40 +0200 (MEST) >>From: Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency >>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >> >> >>>>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:57:10 +1000 >>>&

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Helge Hafting
John Pye wrote: Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Paul Smith
Could somebody please illustrate us about what is "alpha-channel transparency"? I have searched for it through Google, but found nothing instructive. Paul

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-22 Thread Paul Smith
On 6/22/06, John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's when you have 4 channels to describe each color: red, green, blue and alpha. alpha is the opacity. If it's 1.0, then you color will show up just as you expect. If it's zero you can see right through to whatever's behind. Software that supports

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Stephen Harris
John Pye wrote: Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Georg Baum
John Pye wrote: Hi Jean-Pierre, Re: Lyx 1.4.0pre3 + SVG + pdflatex Georg Baum Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:56:43 -0800 Alfonso Gazo wrote: After, when generating the PDF file, it produces a messy graphic just in the place the SVG graphic should be. I've found that LyX is somewhat

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote: The workaround to get svg-pdf conversion is to create an external template (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive). Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong? Georg -- José Abílio

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Georg Baum
Jose' Matos wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote: The workaround to get svg-pdf conversion is to create an external template (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive). Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong? Yes and no: First

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:57:10 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi Jean-Pierre, Re: Lyx 1.4.0pre3 + SVG + pdflatex Georg Baum Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:56:43 -0800

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Stephen Harris
John Pye wrote: Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Georg Baum
John Pye wrote: Hi Jean-Pierre, Re: Lyx 1.4.0pre3 + SVG + pdflatex Georg Baum Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:56:43 -0800 Alfonso Gazo wrote: After, when generating the PDF file, it produces a messy graphic just in the place the SVG graphic should be. I've found that LyX is somewhat

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote: The workaround to get svg-pdf conversion is to create an external template (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive). Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong? Georg -- José Abílio

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Georg Baum
Jose' Matos wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote: The workaround to get svg-pdf conversion is to create an external template (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive). Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong? Yes and no: First

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:57:10 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi Jean-Pierre, Re: Lyx 1.4.0pre3 + SVG + pdflatex Georg Baum Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:56:43 -0800

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Stephen Harris
John Pye wrote: Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Georg Baum
John Pye wrote: > Hi Jean-Pierre, > >> >> Re: Lyx 1.4.0pre3 + SVG + pdflatex >> >> Georg Baum >> Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:56:43 -0800 >> >> Alfonso Gazo wrote: >> >> > After, when generating the PDF file, it produces a messy graphic just >> > in the place the SVG graphic should be. I've found that

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote: > The workaround to get svg->pdf conversion is to create an external template > (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive). Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong? > Georg -- José Abílio

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Georg Baum
Jose' Matos wrote: > On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote: >> The workaround to get svg->pdf conversion is to create an external >> template (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive). > > Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong? Yes and

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
>>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:57:10 +1000 >>From: John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >>Subject: Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency >> >>Hi Jean-Pierre, >> >

SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Hi all What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? I've tried a few combinations such as intermediate EPS and PS file (no transparency) and 'convert' (it

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Paul Smith
On 6/20/06, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? I've tried a few combinations such as intermediate EPS and PS file (no

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:24:22 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi all What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
John Pye wrote: What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? Transform your SVG to PDF. Inkscape supports alpha channels in SVG and in PNG, see

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Hi Uwe, This approach (save as PDF from Inkscape) did not give me alpha channel transparency in my PDF. For example: On the left is a PNG exported from Inkscape (or alternatively, generated using 'rsvg-convert'. On the right is the PDF exported by Inkscape. So I'm still stuck with no alpha

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
:24:22 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi all What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
John Pye wrote: Is that still true? I take it to mean that I can't bypass LyX's use of 'convert' in converting my SVG first to a PNG? You should be able to define a SVG - PNG converter in LyX's preferences. If you use Imagemagick's convert utility to do this you probably save the alpha

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Harris
John Pye wrote: Hi Uwe, This approach (save as PDF from Inkscape) did not give me alpha channel transparency in my PDF. For example: On the left is a PNG exported from Inkscape (or alternatively, generated using 'rsvg-convert'. On the right is the PDF exported by Inkscape. So I'm still

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's an SVG-to-EPS

SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Hi all What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? I've tried a few combinations such as intermediate EPS and PS file (no transparency) and 'convert' (it

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Paul Smith
On 6/20/06, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? I've tried a few combinations such as intermediate EPS and PS file (no

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:24:22 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi all What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
John Pye wrote: What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? Transform your SVG to PDF. Inkscape supports alpha channels in SVG and in PNG, see

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Hi Uwe, This approach (save as PDF from Inkscape) did not give me alpha channel transparency in my PDF. For example: On the left is a PNG exported from Inkscape (or alternatively, generated using 'rsvg-convert'. On the right is the PDF exported by Inkscape. So I'm still stuck with no alpha

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
:24:22 +1000 From: John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi all What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
John Pye wrote: Is that still true? I take it to mean that I can't bypass LyX's use of 'convert' in converting my SVG first to a PNG? You should be able to define a SVG - PNG converter in LyX's preferences. If you use Imagemagick's convert utility to do this you probably save the alpha

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Harris
John Pye wrote: Hi Uwe, This approach (save as PDF from Inkscape) did not give me alpha channel transparency in my PDF. For example: On the left is a PNG exported from Inkscape (or alternatively, generated using 'rsvg-convert'. On the right is the PDF exported by Inkscape. So I'm still

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's an SVG-to-EPS

SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Hi all What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? I've tried a few combinations such as intermediate EPS and PS file (no transparency) and 'convert' (it

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Paul Smith
On 6/20/06, John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? I've tried a few combinations such as intermediate EPS and PS file

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
>>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:24:22 +1000 >>From: John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> >>Subject: SVGs with alpha channel transparency >> >>Hi all >> >>What's the right string

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
John Pye wrote: What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX document so that I get the alpha channel appearing right in the end-product PDF file? Transform your SVG to PDF. Inkscape supports alpha channels in SVG and in PNG, see

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Hi Uwe, This approach (save as PDF from Inkscape) did not give me alpha channel transparency in my PDF. For example: On the left is a PNG exported from Inkscape (or alternatively, generated using 'rsvg-convert'. On the right is the PDF exported by Inkscape. So I'm still stuck with no alpha

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:24:22 +1000 From: John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Subject: SVGs with alpha channel transparency Hi all What's the right string of tools to embed an SVG with alpha-channel transparency into a LyX docume

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
John Pye wrote: Is that still true? I take it to mean that I can't bypass LyX's use of 'convert' in converting my SVG first to a PNG? You should be able to define a SVG -> PNG converter in LyX's preferences. If you use Imagemagick's convert utility to do this you probably save the alpha

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Harris
John Pye wrote: Hi Uwe, This approach (save as PDF from Inkscape) did not give me alpha channel transparency in my PDF. For example: On the left is a PNG exported from Inkscape (or alternatively, generated using 'rsvg-convert'. On the right is the PDF exported by Inkscape. So I'm still

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

2006-06-20 Thread John Pye
Your approach defeats the purpose of using SVG in the first place, and will result in much large PDF files that I am currently getting. I really want to work out how use my SVG-with-alpha directly in LyX, or at least some vector format that will look OK. I wonder if there's an SVG-to-EPS