Re: [M100] Random Question

2020-03-28 Thread Mike Stein
FWIW I use a low profile 40pin ZIF socket in my M100 (plugged into the 'normal' socket); not only does it make plugging the cable in and out easier and damage to the pins less likely, but it also raises the cable a little bit and avoids that bend you're talking about. They do seem to be a little

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Tom Wilson
Is NEWDOS a ROM we can install on Rex, or is it a COM file? Tom Wilson wilso...@gmail.com (619)940-6311 K6ABZ On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:56 PM John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > I wrote a small program to dial the TCP connection and launch NEWDOS with > the delay. Seems to work reliably. > > 10 OPEN"

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
I wrote a small program to dial the TCP connection and launch NEWDOS with the delay. Seems to work reliably. 10 OPEN"COM:98N1E"FOROUTPUTAS1:?#1,"ATDT 192.168.1.85:8085 ":CLOSE1:CALL63013,2,2:MENU SAVE"DIAL Replace the IP and port with your TCP listener. -- John.

Re: [M100] Random Question

2020-03-28 Thread Brian White
Don't read too much into the dvi's cpu. Many peripherals like disk drives and printers have their own cpu exactly the same way. When you use software with the dvi, it still runs on the m100 using the m100's cpu and the m100's ram. The dvi is just a peripheral like any other peripheral, it just com

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Kurt McCullum
No plans yet. I suppose I could add it at some point but I need to make sure all the TPDD stuff is solid. It's looking good so far but lots of testing needed. The reason for going to Python was two create a version of mComm that people could tweak to their liking on various platforms. I'm in the

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 6:57 PM Joshua O'Keefe wrote: > > You said you ran into DTR issues, I wonder if the DTR checks can just be > NOPped out. I guess it's time for me to go learn to read 8085 while I wait > for my modem to get here. > yeah I have a question out to Ken. If it's DTR/DSR issue

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > Gary Weber (Of Web8201.net fame) had me modify the windows version of mComm > to work with WiModem232. Kurt, were you planning to bring the TCP functionality forward into your new (Python, I think you said?) version of mComm? The potential

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Here is my write-up regarding using Wimodem232 + NewDOS + LaddieAlpha http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Connecting_NEWDOS_to_Wimodem232 -- John.

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 6:01 PM Kurt McCullum wrote: > Gary Weber (Of Web8201.net fame) had me modify the windows version of > mComm to work with WiModem232. I don't think I ever released it as an > install but it does exist. Basically, the WiModem connects on IP port 1983 > (The year the model-t

[M100] Fwd: Re: mComm Beta 2

2020-03-28 Thread Kurt McCullum
The email below was the last I heard from Gary about his testing with the WiModem232. He gives some good instructions on how he made his setup work. Kurt - Original message - From: Gary Weber To: Kurt McCullum Subject: Re: Beta 2 Date: Saturday, March 23, 2019 12:44 PM Hi Kurt, You r

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Kurt McCullum
Gary Weber (Of Web8201.net fame) had me modify the windows version of mComm to work with WiModem232. I don't think I ever released it as an install but it does exist. Basically, the WiModem connects on IP port 1983 (The year the model-t was released) instead of a com port. He had to use the vers

[M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Stephen Adolph
It would be great to get a reference solution that can be shown to work reliably. I was never really happy with bluetooth as an intermediate translation layer to TCP ip. However I do think with the right attention it should be workable. Especially If the translation layer knows TPDD speak. Then

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > > Give it a whirl! Steve, you are doing a terrible job dissuading me from trying to score a WiModem. Of course, I could also hang it off the back of the Amiga, and I can't reuse the one on the C64 as it's wired for a Commodore User Port

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Stephen Adolph
Give it a whirl! Iirc, you have to have enough delay to let TCP do its thing. Also, a complication is when the TPDD packet is split across two or more ip packets. On Saturday, March 28, 2020, Joshua O'Keefe wrote: > On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > > > Ken made a version

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > > Ken made a version of newdos that had no timeout I believe, and that is what > used in my experiment. > Dont know if I could find it again... would have to take a look How high did you crank the newdos delay value? It looks like it can a

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Stephen Adolph
Ken made a version of newdos that had no timeout I believe, and that is what used in my experiment. Dont know if I could find it again... would have to take a look. On Saturday, March 28, 2020, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > OK, so... yes I see the same problems with TS-DOS and tcp mode that > ev

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
OK, so... yes I see the same problems with TS-DOS and tcp mode that everyone else does. I tried TS-DOS and NEWDOS that were loaded into my Rex... no difference. They hang timing out on the many little directory extension messages. One thing about the WiModem232 generally, is that you need to be

[M100] DVI

2020-03-28 Thread dano none
>See I had no idea the DVI had it's own dedicated CPU, I just assumed the >M100 was calling all the shots. But I suppose that does make sense, >after all its not just a disk filing system it's having to handle, but >video output as well. This is a pretty easy unit to open up (I didn't say work on

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
The "delay loops" or timeouts are not part of the tpdd protocol. They're just a feature of tsdos. Using another Tpdd client, like teeny tells the tale. But only if you've also addressed the cable check dtr/DSR issue. I think this is a setting or jumper on most of these devices to assert DSR. There

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Josh Malone
> > Ah - okay cool. Didn't realize that. > >

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread B4 Me100
I don¹t think TPDD uses hardware handshaking it relies on delay loops. The TPDD drive generates DSR to indicate there is something present which is required by the ROM drivers. When I tried it via an ESP12 to LaddieAlpha the big issue was the variable delay even with a modified TPDD I could not g

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Tpdd protocol doesn't do any flow control. It's purely request/response. It does do a cable check dtr/dsr. TSDOS itself has cable check, and timeout issues in some cases. I recommend to loop back dtr/DSR if your device cannot assert DSR and use teeny. It has no timeout issues. Also there are ver

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
That's what the feature is there for and it worked when I last tested it. You might want to try with TEENY instead since it has no timeouts like tsdos does. Also you might be having cable handshake (dtr/dsr) issues. Model t' require DSR. -- John.

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Josh Malone
I don't think the WiModem does the hardware flow control needed by tpdd protocol. I might try this with my Rickards modem though. On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 2:02 PM Tom Wilson wrote: > I tried it with a CBMStuff Wimodem 232 talking to LaddieAlpha running in > TCP mode. No joy. > > I didn’t try very h

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Tom Wilson
I tried it with a CBMStuff Wimodem 232 talking to LaddieAlpha running in TCP mode. No joy. I didn’t try very hard, so there may be a combination of settings that does work, but I was never able to get it to work. On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM Gregory McGill wrote: > most wimodems are locked

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Gregory McGill
most wimodems are locked to a baud rate and don't support hardware handshaking.. may make it tough to set up also they only support 8bits no parity.. with the exception of the gurumodem which does 7 bits and even/odd parity as well On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:38 AM Joshua O'Keefe wrote: > Has any

Re: [M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Stephen Adolph
I once was running LaddieAlpha over TCP/IP through my firewall so that I could access the TPDD while connecting over serial bluetooth to Wifi. M100 --> bluetooth --> (android phone as a bridge) {cloud} {house} -- firewall --- server(LaddieAlpha) was fun to accomplish. On Sat, Mar 28, 2

[M100] WiModem TPDD

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
Has anyone tried to wire up one of the TPDD emulators with socat or something to make it network accessible, and then tried reaching it from a WiModem type device? Having wireless storage seems like it would be a great boon, but most of the remnants I see in the Club100 library seem to be about

Re: [M100] Random Question

2020-03-28 Thread james
Thanks Stephen! See I had no idea the DVI had it's own dedicated CPU, I just assumed the M100 was calling all the shots. But I suppose that does make sense, after all its not just a disk filing system it's having to handle, but video output as well. After I posted my question, I did happen

Re: [M100] Random Question

2020-03-28 Thread Stephen Adolph
The DVI plugs into the system bus, and it is quite a bit more involved than an option ROM. The DVI is really a separate, dedicated computer with a Z80 processor. The conflict is really just in how some option roms and software (like REX Manager, Rom2C, PowerDisk others) make use of the model 100

[M100] Random Question

2020-03-28 Thread james
Hey Guys So last night I spent the evening using my new DVI, courtesy of a 40pin extension cable people suggested I buy to extend the existing link cable. I'm pleased to report it all worked out really well, combined with the new cable from Arcadeshopper, the DVI worked fine. I did have to