Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-24 Thread Brian White
White > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 4:29 AM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter > > I think there's another stupid simple possibility that I keep forgetting > to check too: maybe there is room if the board is just offset a l

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-24 Thread Mike Stein
u, Aug 24, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Mike Stein wrote: - Original Message - From: "John Gardner" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter > ...You could make a board where the chip is soldered on, and tha

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-24 Thread Mike Stein
-- From: "Francesco Messineo" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter >I don't have an original M100, however, I've made in the past some > ROMs adapters for other old computers, they are actually smaller than > the

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-24 Thread Francesco Messineo
, 2017 at 2:22 AM, Mike Stein wrote: >> >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "John Gardner" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter >> >> >> > ...You could mak

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-24 Thread Brian White
gt; - Original Message - > From: "John Gardner" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter > > > > ...You could make a board where the chip is soldered on, and that > > would fit in the original socket

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-23 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: "John Gardner" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter > ...You could make a board where the chip is soldered on, and that > would fit in the original socket. The problem then is, that chi

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-23 Thread Brian White
Yes, but, then it's this oddball accessory that you must keep around, and labeled, and still end up just losing after a while, and your grandnephew never knows what it's for a few years later in a box of mystery parts. Or you could just stuff a piece of paper right in the cavity near the main rom

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-23 Thread Gary Weber
Hi Brian, Thanks for the detailed explanation. Totally makes sense. My M100s are indeed all the old style PCB that use the non-standard LH* chip. I do wish I was one of those lucky folks with the later model PCBs. One of the reasons I created the Worldwide Model T Registry database on Web8

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-23 Thread John Gardner
...You could make a board where the chip is soldered on, and that would fit in the original socket. The problem then is, that chip would not be re-programmable very easily, because the combined chip-on-adapter creates a non-standard pinout that a programmer doesn't support... A pgming adapter sou

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-23 Thread Brian White
The problem is that the new adapter is too tall for the available space, if it's plugged in to the original socket. The reason it's too tall is because of the plcc socket. Through-hole style plcc sockets are pretty tall. The way that adapter works, you lose the ability to plug the original rom ba

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-23 Thread Gary Weber
t; Plugs right in and optionally also gives you an Option ROM as well as a > System ROM in the same chip. > > m > > - Original Message - > *From:* Gary Weber > *To:* M100 > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 5:17 PM > *Subject:* [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter > >

Re: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-23 Thread Mike Stein
To: M100 Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 5:17 PM Subject: [M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter Hello all, I have a question for anyone out there who has created a main ROM adapter for their Model 100, using these parts and following these instructions: http://tandy.wiki/FigTronix

[M100] Figtronix Main ROM adapter

2017-08-23 Thread Gary Weber
Hello all, I have a question for anyone out there who has created a main ROM adapter for their Model 100, using these parts and following these instructions: http://tandy.wiki/FigTronix#Model_100_Main_ROM_27C256_PLCC_Adapter My question has to do with this statement: "Unfortunately, using this