Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-05-29 Thread Scott McDonnell
, and a UI that fits in with the M100. I haven’t fully hashed out the story yet, just kind of a visual concept in my head that plays out on my inner chalkboard. Scott M. From: _ Comet To: "m100@lists.bitchin100.com" , "m...@bitchin100.com" Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-05-27 Thread _ Comet
ge: 28 > Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:33:14 -0500 > From: Scott McDonnell > To:"m...@bitchin100.com"  > Subject: [M100] Joystick for the M100 > Message-ID: >     > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > If I ever find one of these

[M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-10 Thread Hiraghm
ort? :D On 1/4/2021 3:47 PM, m100-requ...@lists.bitchin100.com wrote: Message: 28 Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:33:14 -0500 From: Scott McDonnell To:"m...@bitchin100.com" Subject: [M100] Joystick for the M100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" If I ever

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread mcdonnell.junk
Date: 1/6/21 2:56 PM (GMT-05:00) To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 Right, ISTR that  a serial mouse can be usedOn Wed, 6 Jan 2021 at 07:54, MikeS wrote: I haven't seen a joystick article for the Model T but there's a mouse driver in Feb/90 P.8   m

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread Peter Vollan
00.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:30 AM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 > > I can't quote the issue and page but I do recall there being an article in > Portable 100 magazine about connecting a joystick to the Model T computers. > > > <http://

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread Stephen Adolph
nice find on that! On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 10:54 AM MikeS wrote: > From Kim Holviala kim at holviala.com > Wed Feb 23 2011 > Yup, got my side project, the Atari/Commodore joystick interface for > M100 working reliably. > > This is a simple passive interface only requiring tw

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread MikeS
I haven't seen a joystick article for the Model T but there's a mouse driver in Feb/90 P.8 m - Original Message - From: Lee Kelley To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 I can't quote the issue and page

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread MikeS
>From Kim Holviala kim at holviala.com Wed Feb 23 2011 Yup, got my side project, the Atari/Commodore joystick interface for M100 working reliably. This is a simple passive interface only requiring two connectors, some cable and five diodes. Total cost is under $10 including a c

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-05 Thread Brian White
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 2:55 PM Jim Anderson wrote: > > -Original Message- > > For input, there are only 2 signals, BUSY and BUSY_N. Each of these can > > be read independenty. > > As I recall, the way it worked was that the five switches (directional > switches and fire) were wired to the

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Lee Kelley
I can't quote the issue and page but I do recall there being an article in Portable 100 magazine about connecting a joystick to the Model T computers. Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Daryl Tester
On 5/1/21 6:24 am, Jim Anderson wrote: As I recall, the way it worked was that the five switches (directional switches and fire) were wired to the first five output bits, and the common return from all five switches was wired to BUSY. To poll the joystick you'd cycle through outputting ASCII

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Jeffrey Birt
Brilliant! A unique way around every problem. Jeff Birt -Original Message- From: M100 On Behalf Of Jim Anderson Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 1:55 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 > -Original Message- > For input, there are only 2 s

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > For input, there are only 2 signals, BUSY and BUSY_N.  Each of these can > be read independenty. As I recall, the way it worked was that the five switches (directional switches and fire) were wired to the first five output bits, and the common return from all five

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Scott McDonnell
Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 The Centronics standard has 5 dedicated input status lines. And you only need 5 signal pins for an Atari joystick.  Is it possible to read the pins directly? If so, then it should be possible. Tom Wilson wilso...@gmail.com (619)940-6311  K6ABZ On Mon, Jan 4

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Ken Pettit
As Steve mentioned, the M100 parallel port is non-standard. It has output buffers with series resistors on all of the data output pins. This means they cannot be used for either input or for any meanigful power harvesting. For input, there are only 2 signals, BUSY and BUSY_N. Each of these

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Tom Wilson
The Centronics standard has 5 dedicated input status lines. And you only need 5 signal pins for an Atari joystick. Is it possible to read the pins directly? If so, then it should be possible. Tom Wilson wilso...@gmail.com (619)940-6311 K6ABZ On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:42 AM Stephen Adolph

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Stephen Adolph
m100 parallel port is output only except for the printer status lines. GPO yes but not GPI... On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:39 PM Tom Wilson wrote: > > Seems to me that somebody had a scheme a while back where the joystick > interfaced with the parallel port and status was polled that way (this >

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Tom Wilson
> Seems to me that somebody had a scheme a while back where the joystick interfaced with the parallel port and status was polled that way (this avoids having to build a custom interface). Yeah, we used to use the parallel port for a lot of things, back in the DOS days; it doesn't take much to

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > > The problem with an Atari style joystick is that it uses a common > > ground. This means all of the keys to operate a game would need > > His device was smart and interfaced with the system bus and was > accessed via an IO port. Seems to me that somebody had a

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Josh Malone
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:21 PM Tom Wilson wrote: > > The problem with an Atari style joystick is that it uses a common ground. > This means all of the keys to operate a game would need to be on the same row > or column. I don't know the matrix layout of the Model T's keyboard, so it > might

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Tom Wilson
t; > *From:* M100 *On Behalf Of *Scott > McDonnell > *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2021 11:33 AM > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Subject:* [M100] Joystick for the M100 > > > > If I ever find one of these for a decent price again, I am thinking it > might be neat to

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Josh Malone
List member Peter Noeth showed off an Atari joystick interface for M100 on the TRS-80 Trash Talk live show over the weekend. Hopefully he'll be ready to share more details soon. -Josh On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:12 PM Jeffrey Birt wrote: > > I would think this could be done with an exte

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Jeffrey Birt
into the key buffer. It would be interesting to know what more experienced M100 programmers think though. Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of Scott McDonnell Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:33 AM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: [M100] Joystick for the M100 If I ever find one

[M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Scott McDonnell
If I ever find one of these for a decent price again, I am thinking it might be neat to hack one of these on to the M100. Probably need to tap into the keyboard matrix. Anyone else do something similar to get a more intuitive use of the arrow keys?