Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-30 Thread Brian K. White
ank you for doing this. Scott McDonnell --- Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 07:01:39 -0400 From: "Brian K. White" To: m...@bitchin100.com, m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Other things that used the Mol

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-21 Thread Brian K. White
On 5/21/21 10:21 AM, Scott McDonnell wrote: Brian, I wanted to say thank you for doing this. Scott McDonnell Low hanging fruit, something fun to do that's just hard enough to be satisfying vs say watching tv. ;) I was talking to Shelby from TechTangents about a WP-2 card I sent him and I wa

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-21 Thread Scott McDonnell
White" To: m...@bitchin100.com, m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex Message-ID: <65e0dea9-24a4-5254-07a2-4269fb22e...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 5/18/21 7:28 PM, Scott McDonnell wrote: > My other ho

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-20 Thread Brian K. White
On 5/18/21 7:28 PM, Scott McDonnell wrote: My other hobby is robotics and one of my robots is an RB5X. This uses the same style Molex socket, but with fewer pins, for custom application software. I have been trying to adjust the scad model, but haven't nailed it yet. Last month, I ran across

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-20 Thread Mike Stein
I was thinking of the Quasar HHC; no idea if it's the same general shape as the 28 pin Model T version: http://oldcomputers.net/Panasonic_HHC.html On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 3:47 AM Brian K. White wrote: > On 5/18/21 10:28 PM, Mike Stein wrote: > > I believe the little Panasonic notebook also used

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-20 Thread Brian K. White
On 5/18/21 7:28 PM, Scott McDonnell wrote: My other hobby is robotics and one of my robots is an RB5X. This uses the same style Molex socket, but with fewer pins, for custom application software. I have been trying to adjust the scad model, but haven't nailed it yet. Last month, I ran across

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-20 Thread Brian K. White
On 5/18/21 10:28 PM, Mike Stein wrote: I believe the little Panasonic notebook also used a 24 pin version. Panasonic FH-2000 / Nixdorf PC05 looks like 28 pin and just a bit different shape. Very similar but no key slots in the end walls, and it's hard to tell from the only pic I see, but th

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-20 Thread Mike Stein
Are you sure that 256Kb EPROMs were readily available at the beginning of the 80s? Apparently the 2732 only came out in '79. Whatever the reason for the original pinout, Tandy did upgrade the M100 and later Model Ts' system ROMs to the JEDEC standard in late '83, but presumably kept the option ROM

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-19 Thread RETRO Innovations
On 5/19/2021 7:33 AM, Jeffrey Birt wrote: You are absolutely correct about the cost of a masked ROM w.r.t. an EPROM or PROM. The option ROM socket was not intended for the main system firmware, it was for adding new functionality. Many times this added functionality was in the form of general

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-19 Thread Brian K. White
On 5/19/21 12:09 PM, Jeffrey Birt wrote: Judging by the fact Kyocera used standard pinouts on other models like the M10, PC-8201, etc. maybe they saw this was a better route to go? Maybe it was Tandy who insisted on the funky optROM socket to try and have a lock on the software? There are man

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-19 Thread Mike Stein
better route to go? Maybe it > was Tandy who insisted on the funky optROM socket to try and have a lock on > the software? > > > > Jeff Birt > > > > *From:* M100 *On Behalf Of *Mike Stein > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:32 AM > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Sub

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-19 Thread Jeffrey Birt
: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket Hi Jeff, if the ROMs in a C64 have a 'non-standard' pinout, what is the 'standard' pinout for a 24-pin 64Kb ROM and how are the C64 ROMs and compatible EPROMs different? I think the only 'non-standard' ROM is the

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-19 Thread Mike Stein
en they saw the uses the machines were put to. Nothing to do with > Microsoft. > > > > Jeff Birt > > > > > > *From:* M100 *On Behalf Of *Stephen > Adolph > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2021 7:45 AM > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Other

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-19 Thread Jeffrey Birt
: Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket Tandy did release software using the strange socket. Multi-solutions for one, multiplan for another.The M100 main ROM also used the strange pinout. Didn't Microsoft supply the programmed M100 Main ROM PROMs to Tandy? I thi

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-19 Thread Stephen Adolph
d DIP socket with a standard > pinout. > > Jeff Birt > > > > *From:* M100 *On Behalf Of *Peter > Noeth > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 7:30 PM > *To:* Model 100 Discussion > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket > > > > Jeff, >

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-19 Thread Jeffrey Birt
the funky option ROM socket and used a standard DIP socket with a standard pinout. Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of Peter Noeth Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 7:30 PM To: Model 100 Discussion Subject: Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket Jeff, You have to remember that

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-19 Thread Brian K. White
Assuming you were talking about the PCB carrier and not a normal DIP package carrier, it turned out to be possible to generate a 24-pin version of the carrier right from the existing .scad file without even editing it, by supplying overrides for two variables on the commandline. For the pcb I

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-18 Thread Mike Stein
I believe the little Panasonic notebook also used a 24 pin version. On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 7:50 PM Brian K. White wrote: > On 5/18/21 7:28 PM, Scott McDonnell wrote: > > My other hobby is robotics and one of my robots is an RB5X. This uses > > the same style Molex socket, but with fewer pins, f

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket

2021-05-18 Thread Peter Noeth
s systems, as the CPU board was loaded with easy to change EPROM sockets. Regards, Peter > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 07:36:25 -0500 > From: "Jeffrey Birt" > To: > Subject: Re: [M100] Other things that used the M

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-18 Thread Brian K. White
On 5/18/21 7:28 PM, Scott McDonnell wrote: My other hobby is robotics and one of my robots is an RB5X. This uses the same style Molex socket, but with fewer pins, for custom application software. I have been trying to adjust the scad model, but haven't nailed it yet. Last month, I ran across

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex

2021-05-18 Thread Scott McDonnell
My other hobby is robotics and one of my robots is an RB5X. This uses the same style Molex socket, but with fewer pins, for custom application software. I have been trying to adjust the scad model, but haven't nailed it yet.Last month, I ran across two of the M100 compatible Molex carriers on eB

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket.

2021-05-18 Thread you got me
The Telexon 710 barcode scan computer used the molex rom carrier as well. From: M100 on behalf of Brian K. White Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:05 AM To: M100 List Subject: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket. Just chanced across something else that

Re: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket.

2021-05-18 Thread Jeffrey Birt
Message- From: M100 On Behalf Of Brian K. White Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:05 PM To: M100 List Subject: [M100] Other things that used the Molex socket. Just chanced across something else that used the Molex socket. https://www.ebay.com/itm/124169271006 The bag says Intermec and KIT,EPROM

[M100] Other things that used the Molex socket.

2021-05-17 Thread Brian K. White
Just chanced across something else that used the Molex socket. https://www.ebay.com/itm/124169271006 The bag says Intermec and KIT,EPROM,9440,64K. There is a company called Intermec that has the same Everett, WA address as on that bag, and they have a device with a model number 9440. I can't