Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-22 Thread Peter Vollan
Of * >> b...@pigford.org >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2021 1:02 PM >> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com >> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files >> >> >> >> Thanks for the note, Mike. I did write a tokenizer program for Windows >> boxes (

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-22 Thread AvantGuard Systems
o respond. > > Bob Pigford > > > > *From:* M100 *On Behalf Of * > b...@pigford.org > *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2021 1:02 PM > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files > > > > Thanks for the note, Mike. I did write a

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-22 Thread bob
, October 21, 2021 1:02 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files Thanks for the note, Mike. I did write a tokenizer program for Windows boxes (TOKENIZE.EXE). It presents a simple window with a list box showing all .DO files which, when selected, will be tokenized

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:49 PM Jeffrey Birt wrote: > Say you are a new owner of an M100 and you try to load ‘file.ba’ which > shows up in the menu as ‘file.do’, what will you guess the problem is. You > might try it again and get the same result and get pretty frustrated. > > Generally, these ar

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Birt
the problem was. We all know how frustrating a seemly meaningless error message is. I do appreciate the idea. Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of John R. Hogerhuis Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 3:02 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files The

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Birt
You could use DOSBOX or some other virtual machine. They all take time to figure out, but it is an option. Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of AvantGuard Systems Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 4:11 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files In response

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread Greg Swallow
Yet another option? In efforts to get an M1 using TS-DOS over an RS-232 to bluetooth dongle. The problem was the need of a delayed version of TSDOS.DO. mCom's injection in a non-delay version. So, found an ASCII terminal for my Macbook (Cool Term) and verified the connect in TERM. Opened up bas

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread AvantGuard Systems
In response to Mike. I got your entoke.exe file, but it on a Win10 computer and it only works on 32-bit computers. Have a Win95 computer here, so maybe I'll give it a go on it. If Win95 isn't 16-bit Looking forward to Bob's version! Curtis On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 1:18 PM John R. Hogerhuis w

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
The closest thing to a perfect solution... that just works... is for the disk service to present the proper extension instead of the incorrect one. That's what Laddiealpha does. It peeks at beginning of the file to see if it's a binary file and automatically presents a correct extension to TSDOS. W

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread bob
: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 6:17 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files Bob Pigford and I both wrote DOS/Win tokenizer programs some years ago. My version (entoke.exe) is in my personal folder on the Club100 site; someone (Jake?) had volunteered to convert all the

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Birt
These are all interesting ideas but still require the user to know ahead of time that the problem of mismatched extensions exists and how to work around it. The LOAD"0:PROG.DO” might be the easiest thing to recommend once someone realizes they have this problem, but then that also requires they

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Birt
t a better user experience. Your thoughts? Jeff Birt From: Jeffrey Birt Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 7:58 AM To: 'm...@bitchin100.com' Subject: RE: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:59 AM Jeffrey Birt wrote: > This would not solve the underlying problem(s). > > > >1. New users of the M100 always get bitten in the butt by this BA/DO >file issue. >2. Once you learn it is a problem you still have the manual process of >making sure the su

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Birt
exist. Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of Francois Gurin Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 6:50 AM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 7:20 PM John R. Hogerhuis mailto:jho...@pobox.com> > wrote: For example, what Laddi

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread Francois Gurin
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 7:20 PM John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > For example, what LaddieAlpha does is it looks at the file and determines > if it is formatted as plain text or tokenized basic, and when, say TS-DOS > requests the directory it presents the filename with corrected extension on > the fly.

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
> > > That avoids an error, but doesn't improve convenience much. I don't > think the load time matters much at all, but more the need to manually > do the loading and re-saving and maybe killing the .do if you captured > from telcom vs directly into basic. And requires more free ram on the > 100

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-21 Thread Brian K. White
On 10/20/21 8:20 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 4:39 PM Brian K. White > wrote: On 10/20/21 7:21 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > If the goal is simply to make files load faster, My reading of the OP was more about the inconvenience

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-20 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 4:39 PM Brian K. White wrote: > On 10/20/21 7:21 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > > If the goal is simply to make files load faster, > > My reading of the OP was more about the inconvenience of loading onto a > 100, tokenizing, then saving back to the host. > Yes. I read it

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-20 Thread Brian K. White
On 10/20/21 7:21 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: If the goal is simply to make files load faster, My reading of the OP was more about the inconvenience of loading onto a 100, tokenizing, then saving back to the host. And the answer is still exactly what you said. -- bkw

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-20 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:07 PM Jeffrey Birt wrote: > Renaming the files is not the issue. > If when you place the files on the backpack you name ASCII formatted file with a .DO extension and tokenized files with a BA extension (regardless of what they were when you got them from the Internet) y

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-20 Thread Mike Stein
Bob Pigford and I both wrote DOS/Win tokenizer programs some years ago. My version (entoke.exe) is in my personal folder on the Club100 site; someone (Jake?) had volunteered to convert all the mislabelled .BA files on Club100 but when he lost interest so did I, so there may still be one or two ver

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-20 Thread Jeffrey Birt
. Hogerhuis Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:23 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files Well. Tokenized files do load faster. But aside from that I don't see the trouble in just naming files correctly. That's the best fix. You're us

Re: [M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-20 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Well. Tokenized files do load faster. But aside from that I don't see the trouble in just naming files correctly. That's the best fix. You're using a Backpack... Laddiealpha autodetects and presents the correct extension itself if you mess up. That's the way I solved it. If you want to automate to

[M100] Recompile multiple BA files

2021-10-20 Thread AvantGuard Systems
Has anyone figured a good way to recompile multiple BA files into their proper format. What I mean is, we can take the BA files, rename them DO files, load them into M100 and save them as BA files and then run them. Pain in the . I would think using VirtualT someone has figured out a sure fire