Re: Technical list

2011-08-30 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello David You can join by either visiting: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat/ or else you can sent a message to: techno-chat-requ...@techno-chat.net and follow the prompts in the mailback. Lynne On 30 Aug 2011, at 01:42, David Griffith wrote: David Griffith

Re: More on verbosity of numbers

2011-08-30 Thread Gordon Smith
Chris. Can we stay away from discussing Jaws please, it's OT for this group. I know you're expressing an opinion, but let's try and steer clear of anything Windows. On 29 Aug 2011, at 11:13, Chris Moore wrote: This is where I think JAWS excels over VO, JAWS has so many different ways it

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Travis Siegel
On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Gordon, This is something that the Infovox voices do, not Apple's. In fact, if you switch to a voice by Apple, Alex or others do not interpret this wrongly. I'm guessing in some places this is another way to format the dates, and

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Travis I totally and completely agree with you here. The screen-reader's job is to read the contents of the screen, not to interpret it into something entirely different. let's see, what does your synthesiser make of the letters IE? Yes, I typed the letter I then the letter E. If you

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
You can just edit the dictionary and see if that works. I do that a a lot. for words the tI know it will mispronounce, like my name lol! and it read the dates and times correctly in that message btw and Im using the default voices. On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: On Aug

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Gordon Smith
Hello Sarah The point here, even if you can modify the pronunciation dictionaries is that you shouldn't have too. The screen-reader should read what is present on screen not what somebody else thinks was meant. On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:17, Sarah Alawami wrote: You can just edit the dictionary

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Chris G
Maybe we should go after the true problem, and that is the text to speech writers. It isn't just apple and apple voices. My windows voices from ivona and the Kate and Paul voices that come with Kurzweil 1000 do this too. If there is a generic string that the screen reader can send to the

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Travis Siegel
Collin, you said that your vo said sun for my sun that was in the list. Mine says sunday. This is what I meant when I said different voices, and different osx versions will treat the same text differently. This more than anything is why I want an option to turn this interpreting stuff off.

Braille Displays and iPod Touch

2011-08-30 Thread Desi Noller
As many here on list have read, I own a Refresh-a-Braille 18 which I have been using with my iPod touch. Every time I turn off Bluetooth to save battery power, (this is of course only when I'm not using braille), when I turn Bluetooth back on, I have often lost my pairing, and have to pair the

Re: More on 1 Password and keyboard shortcuts for the browser extension.

2011-08-30 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Dane. I can not get 1password to work. I have updated the safari extension and tried a lot of different things. I can not get it to work. Do you have some ideas. Best regards Annie. Den Aug 30, 2011 kl. 7:10 AM skrev Dane Trethowan: For those who use 1 Password then follow this link for

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Gordon Smith
Hello Chris Alex, Fred, Albert etc., are Apple voices. Thus you approach Apple. Would you not agree? Gordon On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:32, Chris G wrote: Maybe we should go after the true problem, and that is the text to speech writers. It isn't just apple and apple voices. My windows voices

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Gordon Smith
Colin With all due respect, that isn't entirely true. There are some things which are hard wired into the voice application and you can't change them. Gordon On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:33, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! As I said to Travis [off list] the facility is there for people to add there

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Gordon Smith
Sarah That's precisely why interpretation should not happen. The screen-reader should read what's on screen and not what it thinks is meant by something. Sure, give the user the option to change it if they prefer. But don't force these abbreviations on us. Gordon On 30 Aug 2011, at 17:37,

Re: More on 1 Password and keyboard shortcuts for the browser extension.

2011-08-30 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. I can not find my logins as I could in snow leopard. I had a great menu, I do not have this menu any longer. I can not find my login for a specific site, when I am on the site, and wants to login. I hope you can help. Best regards Annie. Den Aug 30, 2011 kl. 8:10 PM skrev Dane Trethowan:

Re: More on 1 Password and keyboard shortcuts for the browser extension.

2011-08-30 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi again Dane. I forgot to mention that I can find the all logins picture, but nothing happens when I press VoiceOver +space. Best regards Annie. Den Aug 30, 2011 kl. 8:10 PM skrev Dane Trethowan: Yep, I have a few suggestions which may help but first bare in mind that 1 Password is a

Re: @Quick access to web pages

2011-08-30 Thread Esther
Hi Paul, Yes, there are two file formats that act in the way you describe: when you open them from a location in Finder, such as from on your Desktop or when placed in the Dock, they will cause Safari to open in that web page. For the past nearly four years I've been using a GUI-based

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Chris G
Acapela™ and Nuance are not apple voices. On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:50:15 +0100 Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Chris Alex, Fred, Albert etc., are Apple voices. Thus you approach Apple. Would you not agree? Gordon On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:32, Chris G wrote: Maybe we

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
Exactly. I think we should all just interpret how we read thing.s after all is that not what the sighted person does? and besides, we can get rid of the things in the dictionary and start afresh. We can bug apple about it but I really don't thnk ti will work this time around. Take care all.

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
Why, when they are commnen anyways. Ok have vo read the abreaction but don't have it expand. I could have sworn there was a setting for it not to do that some ware? Iknot thinking and I've used so many operating systems over the past 20 years that I can't remember. Take care all. On Aug 30,

Re: More on 1 Password and keyboard shortcuts for the browser extension.

2011-08-30 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, see if this helps. Firstly launch 1 Password and enter your Master Password and hit return, you'll hear the familiar 1 password unlocking sound and all passwords and other data will be available for you to manipulate. at this point focus is directed to the Search edit box where you can

Re: More on 1 Password and keyboard shortcuts for the browser extension.

2011-08-30 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi again. Ok a little further. I can open from the program but not from safari, that is ok. But the hotkey command + \ does not work on a danish keyboard. I have tried to change it, but these fields are unknown in the preferences, what can I do about that. But I can open the page now a major

Latest Airfoil 4.5.7 update now released

2011-08-30 Thread Dane Trethowan
Airfoil 4.5.7 is now available, fixes many bugs and problems which caused the application to crash as well as introducing total Lion compatibility to capture all audio etc. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net

Re: More on 1 Password and keyboard shortcuts for the browser extension.

2011-08-30 Thread Dane Trethowan
The hotkey command-\ should work from Safari, it does here though you may have problems with accessibility of the Safari extension at this time, the developers wrote back to me this morning and said they were still having issues with VO accessibility and 1 Password, they seem to think that

Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!

2011-08-30 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Chris Did not Gordon give specifics which pertain to Apple voices? He deliberately dis not mention the Acapella voices. So what was the point of this post? :) On 30 Aug 2011, at 21:54, Chris G wrote: Acapela™ and Nuance are not apple voices. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply