Re: new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread Rich & Michaela
Puneet Kishor wrote: His seven tips. All very good. I will add just a couple more. Sign up at www.perlmonks.org. It has even more of the "names" in the perl community, than this list. It has been an invaluable resource for me. Perlmonks has a broad and deep dicsussion forum (actually several wi

Re: new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread Kris Wolff
On 14.12.2002 1:40 Uhr, "Puneet Kishor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 8. and last, but most important, or god's sake, don't give up your music > for perl. Yup, pait this bold !! Programming is a grate thing, and I suppose most of us earn the monthly monny with it. - but what the hell I am doing wi

New Perl install

2002-12-13 Thread Jeffrey Melloy
After getting a new powerbook, I attempted to install perl 5.8.0 according to the instructions at apple.com. Everything appeared to work correctly, (configure, make, make install and so forth not having any problems), but now fink returns: dyld: perl Undefined symbols: _Perl_safefree _Perl_safe

Re: new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread Puneet Kishor
Riccardo Perotti wrote: Hi all: It's almost embarrassing to write to this list (I have books by of some of you guys: Randal, Chris, etc.) and I regret to waste your time in something so trivial as this, but I'm new to Programming (I'm a musician; took up 2 programming 2 years ago), new to Perl (1

Re: Perl Wrestling Federation Bout: 5.6 vs. 5.8

2002-12-13 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 13/12/02 19:57, "David Wheeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 11:48 AM, David H. Adler wrote: > >> I was kind of guessing that. Is there any favored place? Should I >> just >> punt and use /opt ? > > Up to you. I favor /usr/local, which isn't used by Mac OS

Re: Test Mac::Carbon build for me?

2002-12-13 Thread Emmanuel. M. Decarie
À (At) 18:50 -0500 12/12/02, Chris Nandor écrivait (wrote) : At 10:35 +1100 2002.12.13, Ken Williams wrote: Chris, do you know where 'keyReplyPortAttr' is defined? Hm. That's in AEMach.h. This is the workaround I was using to get AESend to work at all on Mac OS X. If that won't work, I wonde

Re: new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread Adam Wells
At 14:02 -0800 12/13/02, David Wheeler wrote: On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 01:54 PM, Riccardo Perotti wrote: Can somebody please supply with the actual commands involved in "The usual make, test, install routine", starting from the folder where my downloaded software would be? If you're w

Re: new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread David Wheeler
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 01:54 PM, Riccardo Perotti wrote: Can somebody please supply with the actual commands involved in "The usual make, test, install routine", starting from the folder where my downloaded software would be? If you're working with Perl modules (and not using CPAN.p

Re: new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread Trey Harris
In a message dated Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Riccardo Perotti writes: > Can somebody please supply with the actual commands involved in "The usual > make, test, install routine", starting from the folder where my downloaded > software would be? The reason that we don't tend to spell out the steps isn't th

Re: new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 04:54 PM, Riccardo Perotti wrote: Can somebody please supply with the actual commands involved in "The usual make, test, install routine", starting from the folder where my downloaded software would be? The whole routine is pretty well covered in the 'perlmodin

new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread Riccardo Perotti
Hi all: It's almost embarrassing to write to this list (I have books by of some of you guys: Randal, Chris, etc.) and I regret to waste your time in something so trivial as this, but I'm new to Programming (I'm a musician; took up 2 programming 2 years ago), new to Perl (1.5 years) and new to Unix

Re: Test Mac::Carbon build for me?

2002-12-13 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 05:18:25PM -0500, Chris Nandor wrote: > http://dev.macperl.org/tmp/Mac-Carbon-0.02_01.tar.gz > > If you have the time, please try this build out, compiling and testing. > It's been tested with perl 5.6.0 and gcc2/gcc3 on Mac OS X 10.2, but I > imagine it should work with

Re: Perl Wrestling Federation Bout: 5.6 vs. 5.8

2002-12-13 Thread John Siracusa
On 12/13/02 3:50 PM, Andy Lester wrote: >> It's better to leave the Apple-provided 5.6.0 where it is and install 5.8.0 >> elsewhere unless you really know what you're doing. > > Why? Like I said in my post: On 12/13/02 2:29 PM, John Siracusa wrote: > Remember that OS X uses perl as part of its n

Re: Perl Wrestling Federation Bout: 5.6 vs. 5.8

2002-12-13 Thread John Siracusa
On 12/13/02 2:48 PM, David H. Adler wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 02:29:41PM -0500, John Siracusa wrote: >> On 12/13/02 2:16 PM, David H. Adler wrote: >>> >>> Have we come to any kind of concensus as to whether it's better to >>> replace 5.6 with 5.8 or to stash 5.8 somewhere out of the way and

Re: Perl Wrestling Federation Bout: 5.6 vs. 5.8

2002-12-13 Thread David Wheeler
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 11:48 AM, David H. Adler wrote: I was kind of guessing that. Is there any favored place? Should I just punt and use /opt ? Up to you. I favor /usr/local, which isn't used by Mac OS X. So you should be safe there. David -- David Wheeler

Re: Perl Wrestling Federation Bout: 5.6 vs. 5.8

2002-12-13 Thread Andy Lester
> It's better to leave the Apple-provided 5.6.0 where it is and install 5.8.0 > elsewhere unless you really know what you're doing. Why? xoa -- 'Andy Lester[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer/author petdance.com Daddy parsley.org/quinn Jk'=~/.+/s;print((split//,$&)

Re: Perl Wrestling Federation Bout: 5.6 vs. 5.8

2002-12-13 Thread David H. Adler
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 02:29:41PM -0500, John Siracusa wrote: > On 12/13/02 2:16 PM, David H. Adler wrote: > > > > Have we come to any kind of concensus as to whether it's better to > > replace 5.6 with 5.8 or to stash 5.8 somewhere out of the way and leave > > the Apple installed 5.6 where it is

Re: Perl Wrestling Federation Bout: 5.6 vs. 5.8

2002-12-13 Thread John Siracusa
On 12/13/02 2:16 PM, David H. Adler wrote: > I figure it's time I bit the bullet and installed 5.8. Having > completely blown it last time, however, I have a question. > > Have we come to any kind of concensus as to whether it's better to > replace 5.6 with 5.8 or to stash 5.8 somewhere out of th

Perl Wrestling Federation Bout: 5.6 vs. 5.8

2002-12-13 Thread David H. Adler
I figure it's time I bit the bullet and installed 5.8. Having completely blown it last time, however, I have a question. Have we come to any kind of concensus as to whether it's better to replace 5.6 with 5.8 or to stash 5.8 somewhere out of the way and leave the Apple installed 5.6 where it is?

cpan make test failure

2002-12-13 Thread esaxby
Hello, I've just (apparently successfully) upgraded to perl 5.8 on an xServe we have in the office, but I keep getting errors when I try to install several modules through CPAN. Bundle::CPAN worked fine, but when I try to install Bundle::XML I get a couple recurring make errors. When I 'inst

Re: Test Mac::Carbon build for me?

2002-12-13 Thread Chris Nandor
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams) wrote: > Okay, I installed the 0.02 binaries, and then one-liner above > worked fine. Well, that's something. :-) Did you see keyReplyPortAttr in AEMach.h? > The EU::MM shipped with perl 5.6.1 doesn't have the > ExtUtils::Com

Re: Test Mac::Carbon build for me?

2002-12-13 Thread Chris Nandor
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams) wrote: > I've been working on the ExtUtils::ParseXS module, which is > designed to render this approach obsolete. It's on CPAN right > now, maybe it could be used here instead of > custom/version-specific xsubpps? > > The goal