Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers)

2002-11-19 Thread William H. Magill
On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 01:17 AM, Heather Madrone wrote: I also got the developer tools unpacked, so the Darwin shell is starting to look a bit more like home. One thing about the Shells under OS X -- you have neither csh nor sh! csh is a link to tcsh and sh a link to bash. zsh is al

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers)

2002-11-18 Thread Heather Madrone
At 12:49 AM 11/19/2002 -0500, Chris Devers wrote: >Actually, I'm a bit curious how you managed to install Perl 5.8.0 without >first installing the Tools. Maybe I missed some detail... I downloaded a binary. >> Those Apple switch ads currently make steam come out my ears. > >Kill Your Television.

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers)

2002-11-18 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Heather Madrone wrote: > At 12:46 PM 11/15/2002 +1100, Ken Williams wrote: > >On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Heather Madrone wrote: > However, these past few days have been so discouraging that I have > considered selling the Powerbook and surrendering to the evi

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-15 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 10:36 AM -0500 11/15/02, William H. Magill wrote: If you want to develop for Unix(tm), I would recommend using a platform like Tru64 Unix, as it will teach you what Standards really mean. Just because it was developed and runs on Sun, usually means it won't run anywhere else. AND Not to st

Re: locale in carbon emacs

2002-11-15 Thread William H. Magill
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 01:59 AM, Heather Madrone wrote: Anyway, what has been frustrating you about the powerbook? Anything this list can help with or be interested in? Probably not. As an example, the Powerbook locks up the current application and refuses to shut down if a Windows n

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-15 Thread William H. Magill
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 02:05 AM, Heather Madrone wrote: More to the point though, if you haven't installed the developer package, you don't have a make at all--that may be your problem. Which developer package would that be? As others have mentioned, it is the Developer Tools CD. You

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-15 Thread Jonathan King
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Kee Hinckley wrote: > At 11:05 PM -0800 11/14/02, Heather Madrone wrote: > > >More to the point though, if you haven't installed the developer > >package, you don't have a make at all--that may be your problem. > > > >Which developer package would that be? > > The develope

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-15 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 11:05 PM -0800 11/14/02, Heather Madrone wrote: >More to the point though, if you haven't installed the developer package, you don't have a make at all--that may be your problem. Which developer package would that be? The developer install CD. It comes with the OS purchase. I don't know

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-15 Thread Chris Nandor
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heather Madrone) wrote: > At 09:45 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, Kee Hinckley wrote: > Two possibilities. > > >1. You're used to some version of make which does cpan installs? > > > >sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell > >install xxx > > I'm used

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Heather Madrone
At 09:45 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, Kee Hinckley wrote: Two possibilities. >1. You're used to some version of make which does cpan installs? > >sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell >install xxx I'm used to ActivePerl's ppm, which looks and feels a lot like ftp. No need to make anything. Unix-styl

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers)

2002-11-14 Thread Heather Madrone
At 12:46 PM 11/15/2002 +1100, Ken Williams wrote: >On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Heather Madrone wrote: >> >>At 10:44 PM 11/14/2002 +, Phil Dobbin wrote: >>>Switch, whether from Mac OS 9 or Win32, definitely ain't happening here :-( >> >>I just got a Powerbook a week ago, and I'm

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Heather Madrone
At 09:59 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, Sherm Pendley wrote: >On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 07:17 PM, Heather Madrone wrote: > >>I haven't yet been able to figure out how to get the carbon build of >>emacs (a gui emacs) to import the locale so that the perl debugger >>will run under emacs. Any sugge

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 07:17 PM, Heather Madrone wrote: I haven't yet been able to figure out how to get the carbon build of emacs (a gui emacs) to import the locale so that the perl debugger will run under emacs. Any suggestions for the best way to handle that? GUI programs, since

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 09:26 PM, Puneet Kishor wrote: Perl 5.8.0 on OS X 10.2.x does have some problems in that it can conflict with previously compiled libraries. That depends entirely on how you choose to compile and install it. If you install it somewhere other than /System/Libr

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 8:26 PM -0600 11/14/02, Puneet Kishor wrote: Also, which make do you use to get modules installed from CPAN? no idea. Just say "install whateveryouwant" at the cpan prompt and it does it all. Please elaborate more on your problems. That is the only way others can help you. Two possibili

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Puneet Kishor
On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 06:17 PM, Heather Madrone wrote: Hi, I'm Heather Madrone, and I just signed onto this list this morning. At 10:44 PM 11/14/2002 +, Phil Dobbin wrote: Switch, whether from Mac OS 9 or Win32, definitely ain't happening here :-( I just got a Powerbook a w

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers)

2002-11-14 Thread Ken Williams
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Heather Madrone wrote: At 10:44 PM 11/14/2002 +, Phil Dobbin wrote: Switch, whether from Mac OS 9 or Win32, definitely ain't happening here :-( I just got a Powerbook a week ago, and I'm so disgusted with it that I'm thinking of switching back.

locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Heather Madrone
Hi, I'm Heather Madrone, and I just signed onto this list this morning. At 10:44 PM 11/14/2002 +, Phil Dobbin wrote: >Switch, whether from Mac OS 9 or Win32, definitely ain't happening here :-( I just got a Powerbook a week ago, and I'm so disgusted with it that I'm thinking of switching back